Fuel Economy VTS v VTR

1. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

   #1 7th March 2011, 01:15

   Is there much difference?
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 7th March 2011, 01:17

   drive sensible and no
3. Stevo123 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Redcar Posts: 1971 2000 Posi Blue vtr

   #3 7th March 2011, 13:02

   I would tend to disagree purely based on figures posted in this forum previously. If you have a search you will hopefully find what your looking for, however, bear in mind that as Blackie has said already a lot depends on how they are driven and of course if they are maintained well. You will be looking at around 7mpg difference which does not sound a lot but when you consider a full tank is 10 gallons that 70 miles more every fill up.
   If you don't mind the extra for fuel though the VTS engine is a little cracker and is way quicker than a std VTR.
4. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #4 7th March 2011, 13:44

   a big difference imo
5. stuartm L-plater Joined: Aug 2010 Over here Posts: 46 VTS - mystical 2 prong head version;)

   #5 7th March 2011, 16:26

   I've a VTS with a VTR box on, I have never had it below 40mpg, normal figure for me is 45mpg, thats with 50mph(6 mile single trackroad) & 60mph A-road(9 miles)to work, gunning it off all the roundabouts, I never sit in traffic though.
6. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #6 7th March 2011, 16:49

   a noticeable difference id say
7. user_50058 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Southampton Posts: 172 Mauritius Blue VTR

   #7 7th March 2011, 17:04

   I was interested to know what sort of mpg people were getting out of their VTRs mine seems to drink the petty..is there a thread on MPG? Ive done a serach and its returned nothing
   Cheers
8. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #8 7th March 2011, 17:56

   my 99' vtr does 35-45 mpg
9. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #9 7th March 2011, 18:00

   I owned a VTR then a 106 GTI (same engine as VTS) and the fuel consumption (same driving style) is about 20-25% more in my experience
   
   If I drive conservatively on the motorway, I can scrape 38mpg in the GTI
   Usually I get about 30mpg combined
10. srmotorsport L-plater Joined: May 2010 Dumfries and Galloway Posts: 32 2001 saxo vtr

    #10 7th March 2011, 19:27

    Always get 40-45mpg in my vtr and thats 25 mile round trip every day.
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 7th March 2011, 20:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate I owned a VTR then a 106 GTI (same engine as VTS) and the fuel consumption (same driving style) is about 20-25% more in my experience If I drive conservatively on the motorway, I can scrape 38mpg in the GTI Usually I get about 30mpg combined

    Something is wrong with your GTi dude.
    
    You can 45 mpg no probs if you hold it at 70 mph.
12. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #12 7th March 2011, 20:27

    I get 42 mpg from my VTS doing ~35 miles a day if I take it easy. Similar driving in my VTR was giving me 45 - 46 mpg.
13. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #13 7th March 2011, 20:44

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    Originally Posted by adsayer Something is wrong with your GTi dude. You can 45 mpg no probs if you hold it at 70 mph.

    I did the sums wrong, its actually about 36mpg I get but I do a lot of town driving.
    
    I filled up £55 of fuel at about £1.30 per litre and got about 320 miles out of it
    
    I have a decat and pugsport exhaust but no other engine mode as far as I am aware. As soon as I put my foot down, I can almost see the petrol gague needle going down lol
    
    I didn't even get 45mpg in the VTR
14. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

    #14 8th March 2011, 00:51

    Such mixed views here, was asking because im moving soon which means a 80 mile round trip to work and back everyday, I currently have a VTS with full stainless steel & decat and £50 gets me 310 miles which means alot of fuel every week, looks like im gonna be getting a furio at this rate!
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 8th March 2011, 01:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate I did the sums wrong, its actually about 36mpg I get but I do a lot of town driving. I filled up £55 of fuel at about £1.30 per litre and got about 320 miles out of it I have a decat and pugsport exhaust but no other engine mode as far as I am aware. As soon as I put my foot down, I can almost see the petrol gague needle going down lol I didn't even get 45mpg in the VTR

    ahhh I thought you meant purely motorway driving. Yeah round town it sucks. I think I got 17 mpg once just from short drives and town driving (no macho shit either)
    
    Mine is not too dissimilar to your setup. mani, decat, magnex centre and backbox. The only downside is the xsi box I have which munches my fuel on the long runs
16. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #16 8th March 2011, 07:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer ahhh I thought you meant purely motorway driving. Yeah round town it sucks. I think I got 17 mpg once just from short drives and town driving (no macho shit either) Mine is not too dissimilar to your setup. mani, decat, magnex centre and backbox. The only downside is the xsi box I have which munches my fuel on the long runs

    I think mine is a VTS box, it sits at nearly 4k revs at 70mph though which seems to eat through the fuel more......am thinking it may be another box variant
17. Rodney Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1778

    #17 8th March 2011, 08:01

    Buddy my VTS 16V it amazing on fuel, driving around town uses nothing! Great
    
    But.....
    
    As soon as I get on a motor way in drinks like a 10L truck and that's no lie

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18. Azza-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Mansfield Posts: 1041 2003 Saxo VTR, 1997 MGF 1.8i, 2001 MGF Trophy 160

    #18 8th March 2011, 19:51

    Not being funny but I got 176 miles to 15 litres of fuel which worked out at 53.34mpg that was country road driving and motorway driving we got 325miles to 35 litres which works out at 42.21mpg - 2003 Saxo VTR
19. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #19 8th March 2011, 21:12

    The VTS revs much higher, prob how I end up eating through petrol
    I barely drive mine so am fairly heavy footed when I do lol
    
    Think the rev limiter is about 7250 in mine as well
20. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #20 8th March 2011, 22:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate I think mine is a VTS box, it sits at nearly 4k revs at 70mph though which seems to eat through the fuel more......am thinking it may be another box variant

    How close is it to 70 mph at 4k dude. Is this 70 indicated or gps? Sounds like an xsi box.
21. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #21 8th March 2011, 22:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer How close is it to 70 mph at 4k dude. Is this 70 indicated or gps? Sounds like an xsi box.

    About 72ish on the speedo
    69-70 on the GPS
22. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #22 8th March 2011, 23:30

    Xsi box without a doubt
23. loudandproud205 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 lincs Posts: 1044 205 Dimma, MR2 turbo Range Rover, Laguna

    #23 8th March 2011, 23:41

    my VTS was crap on fuel but was fun, I refer to it as smiles to the gallon as its much more fun
24. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #24 9th March 2011, 07:22

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    Originally Posted by adsayer Xsi box without a doubt

    Hmmmmm what would the VTS be revving at 70mph then?
    
    Will an XSI box cause any issues?
    
    Cheers mate
25. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #25 9th March 2011, 12:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Hmmmmm what would the VTS be revving at 70mph then? Will an XSI box cause any issues? Cheers mate

    no probs at all... although we've nicely derailed the thread some what
    3600 rpm for a standard VTS box at a genuine 70 mph.
    It sounds very much like an s1 box in fact, 4k rpm is around a true 68 mph. 72 mph for a 1.4 xsi box.
    
    Differences... worse mpg on motorways, it's actually not too bad around town because you can make your way into a higher gear than you could on the vts box. Faster in gear acceleration though. woop woop.
26. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #26 9th March 2011, 13:08

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    Originally Posted by adsayer no probs at all... although we've nicely derailed the thread some what 3600 rpm for a standard VTS box at a genuine 70 mph. It sounds very much like an s1 box in fact, 4k rpm is around a true 68 mph. 72 mph for a 1.4 xsi box. Differences... worse mpg on motorways, it's actually not too bad around town because you can make your way into a higher gear than you could on the vts box. Faster in gear acceleration though. woop woop.

    Yeah we seem to have somewhat
    
    Ahh I see well its definitely not 3600rpm at 70mph
    Will test it tonight to see if its more likely an Xsi or S1 box
    
    Either way, it doesnt really matter as I dont drive it much and vary rarely on the motorway