springs???

  1. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #1
    what springs do use guys use for 50-60mm that are decent to use with bilstein group n as my rear end is lowered 60-70mm(not on the bump stops)
    thanx
  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 555
    #2
    Could try Spax?
  3. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #3
    ive had spax before didnt think to much about them
  4. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #4
    Hey mate, i got your PM but thought id reply here incase anyone else was also looking to use the group N billies at a low height.

    The group N's arent really designed for lowness unfortunately. The piston is still quite long and the internal bump stop is quite large. If you were to lower the front as much as the rear using the group N's you'd be in danger of constantly being on the bump stop.

    Because of its design too its impossible to shorten the bump stop or even machine the damper down enough to make much difference.

    I dont know of anyone who has used the group N dampers at a height lower than 40mm.

    Willsy
  5. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #5
    cheers m8!
    what damper is fine for 50mm-60mm on front end then?
  6. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kyle4256 View Post
    cheers m8!
    what damper is fine for 50mm-60mm on front end then?
    Whats your budget mate? If you still want a very high end of the market damper that can go low the pugsport group N ones are ideal but they are highly priced even more so with poor euro exchange rate and depending just how low you want to go they can be machined down easily enough if required.

    Or for a more budget but still very good performance for money damper you can't go wrong with Apex ones (available from kamracing)
  7. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #7
    i was originally goin to go for the apex one but a few posts on here say that there rubbish for there money?
    whats the site so i can look at these pug sport ones.
    whats ur rating on the apex kit?have you driven any with that set -up on before?
  8. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #8
    Fitted loads of Apex kits now and theyre absolutely brilliant for the money and to my knowledge so far they are very reliable, who and where have you heard bad reviews?

    The billie Group N's are of course alot better but definately not suitable for being as low as you want it.

    The pugsports are on GMC website and Special tuning websites but IMO with current pricing its a silly amount to pay.

    The extra money if using for general road use mostly would be better spent replacing tired worn parts such as top mount bearings, drop links aswel as upgrading suspension bushes to polybush variety.
  9. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #9
    was a thread somewhere i would have to search apex and have alook, so the dampers you get with 50mm apex kit are fine? which would mean that the apex can damp 50mm and the bilstein group n cant ?my heads pickled lol
  10. L-plater Joined: May 2009 Kent (SE of London) Posts: 92 Arctic Steel mk2 VTR
    #10
    have you looked into eibach springs?
    pretty reliable, optional extra on the focus st, gotta be good!
  11. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #11
    willsey- how would you say they work together?
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...nsion-kit.html
  12. Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts
    #12
    smallboi90 - its find dampers that can damp 50mm with no problems, ive heard the eibach springs are good to .thanx