Is this an Mot Failure?

  1. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude
    #1
    I have a "chunk" of rubber missing out the sidewall of my tyre, about the size of a 2p approx.

    I took a car in for an MOT previously with sidewall damage and they failed it.
    Yet my mate who used to do MOT's said its not a fail.

    Just wanted some advice weather to get it changed or not
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #2
    The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle.

    Notes: Although under-inflation is not in itself a reason for failure, a brake test may be inadvisable because of possible damage, and it may affect headlamp alignment. The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.

    Wheel condition

    - Damage
    - Distortion
    - Cracks
    - Distorted bead rim
    - Securely attached to the vehicle
    - No wheel nuts or studs missing.
    - An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off.

    From a thread ive read...
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 Hams Hall/Spine Road etc Posts: 8076 Still broken ones.
    #3
    Personally I would change it, I think it would depend on the MOT tester.

    I am guessing some would fail it and others put it as an advisory, but surely better to just change the tyre to save any hassle.
  4. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by John_G View Post
    The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle.

    Notes: Although under-inflation is not in itself a reason for failure, a brake test may be inadvisable because of possible damage, and it may affect headlamp alignment. The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.

    Wheel condition

    - Damage
    - Distortion
    - Cracks
    - Distorted bead rim
    - Securely attached to the vehicle
    - No wheel nuts or studs missing.
    - An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off.

    From a thread ive read...
    Ok cheers Buddy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by L20VTS View Post
    Personally I would change it, I think it would depend on the MOT tester.

    I am guessing some would fail it and others put it as an advisory, but surely better to just change the tyre to save any hassle.
    Yeah i think ill pop down tyre place replace both the fronts. Backs are still fairly good. Off topic, but theres another Modified Midlands Cruise coming up hannah, i believe you have attended one before. But either way theres one next month If u wish to attend
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI
    #5
    Unsure on the exact 'rules' surrounding tyres in regards to an MOT but in my experience, some testers fail some things and others don't

    In all honesty it probably is a fail as the size of a 2p is a decent chunk out of the tyre, meaning you would be more prone to having a blowout on that tyre, technically making the car unroadworthy...therefore an MOT fail
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by John_G View Post
    The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle.

    Notes: Although under-inflation is not in itself a reason for failure, a brake test may be inadvisable because of possible damage, and it may affect headlamp alignment. The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.

    Wheel condition

    - Damage
    - Distortion
    - Cracks
    - Distorted bead rim
    - Securely attached to the vehicle
    - No wheel nuts or studs missing.
    - An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off.

    From a thread ive read...
    I thought as regards the spare tyre that its not illegal not to have a spare tyre but if you have 1 it must be in a roadworthy condition.

    Steve.
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 Hams Hall/Spine Road etc Posts: 8076 Still broken ones.
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matt-T View Post
    Ok cheers Buddy



    Yeah i think ill pop down tyre place replace both the fronts. Backs are still fairly good. Off topic, but theres another Modified Midlands Cruise coming up hannah, i believe you have attended one before. But either way theres one next month If u wish to attend
    Any idea what date? If I am not doing oute else might well be there If so you'll have to come say hi
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 740 suzuki ignis sport
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    I thought as regards the spare tyre that its not illegal not to have a spare tyre but if you have 1 it must be in a roadworthy condition.

    Steve.
    I was told this aswell because if you havent got a spare tyre they cant inspect it to see if its road worthy or not , because my spare was removed to install my dual exit exhaust
  9. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Redcar Posts: 1971 2000 Posi Blue vtr
    #9
    Might be worth changing it not only for the MOT but incase it lets go at speed mate.
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2010 Posts: 6234
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stevo123 View Post
    Might be worth changing it not only for the MOT but incase it lets go at speed mate.
    ....+1, just aint worth the risk of more damage, defo worth fixing
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Barnsley Posts: 969 '01 Ford Focus TDCi No More Saxo :(
    #11
    I would have thought it be a fail myself, on the basis of increased risk of failure of the tyre.
  12. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #12
    Cant you just put your spare on for the MOT? thats assuming you have a spare and its not bald
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Stourbridge Posts: 3996 Vauxhall corsa 1.2 Saxo 1.6 vtr
    #13
    I have a chunk missing out of the side of mine. Didnt fail mot. Might of been cus the tester didn't see or just isn't dangerous. If you are worried that it will fail, take it off, put spare on and leave it at home...
  14. Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 loughborough Posts: 2229 1988 ford fiesta mk2 1.4- 2001 black saxo furio (d
    #14
    depending on where on the sidewall but iirc any damage to the sidewall is a failure as the sidewall is the strength of the trye. also if cracked on the face then it should pass aslong as the cords don't show.
  15. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi
    #15
    The sidewall, is also known as the kurbing bead!

    You can split, take chunks out or bald a sidewall as much as you like!
    Aslong as, the it doesnt swell up, like a egg, or golf ball.
    Or
    The canvas of the tyre is exposed.

    So unless, there is structule damage, there tyre is perfectly fine.
  16. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    I thought as regards the spare tyre that its not illegal not to have a spare tyre but if you have 1 it must be in a roadworthy condition.

    Steve.
    Spare doesnt come into it.
    Punctures and spares, are not part of the test.
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  17. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by L20VTS View Post
    Any idea what date? If I am not doing oute else might well be there If so you'll have to come say hi
    17th April. Its a DOUBLEKLUTCH birthday special.. i shall be posting it in next few days. Get a few others down

    Thanks for your help all, i think ill get it changed over anyway for saftey.