Best Track Tyres for Saxo IMO! toyo r888's maxsport rb5 anRd Yokohama Ao48

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #1
    I don't know why I can't post in the track chat forum!!!
    I have ran Toyo R888's for a whole year and offer much better grip on my Saxo track car but at silverstone trax ran 205 50 R15 maxsport RB5 on the front and they gripped far better than the toyo Tyres! I also used them at a full trackday at Angelsey and Cadwell but they are to wide and rubbed on my arches! So I am definitely goin to buy the 185/55/15 rb5 as are just £61.11 Inc vat delivered!!! I can't Recomended them high enough and hope this helps other track attendees I am not new to trackdays as have been doing them for 15 years and have tracked my Saxo for nearly 5yrs doing at least 6 trackdays a year!!!
  2. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #2
    youve not requested to join the track section.

    do so and ill move this
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
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    Sorry how do I request to join!??
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    request acceptance from the usergroup leader from your User CP.
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
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    !??? What do u mean??
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    At the top, click USER CP.. I would print screen but im in Safe Mode atm, Can't do it.. Il Copy and paste where it is though-ish.



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    Best Track Tyres for Saxo IMO! toyo r888's maxsport rb5 anRd Yokohama Ao48
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  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #7
    From what I've been told and read on reviews the yoko's are meant to grip better but wear faster than there equivilant Toyo's

    I've got some ao48 mediums for this year but haven't tried them out yet as im still using wets due to the damp weather..
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #8
    I have a408r on front now and grip is similar to r888 but cost more new!! Mine were a bargain got then on ford alloys for £31 of eBay with 3/4mm of tread so a lot of life left buy had to gonto london to gay them! Sold alloys for £21 though so bargain hair paid for fitting
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
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    Worked it out and have requested to join how long until I know if have been accepted as my comments should help the discussion on these exact Tyres!!!
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo
    #10
    Avon acb10's Are another option, very light tyre
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Bletchley Posts: 176 Citroen Saxo (Race car). Skoda Octivia (tow car)
    #11
    Ive got Yoko a048's on mine. I havent had any problems with them - brillant in the dry and not bad on a wet track!!
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #12
    'RB5's have been superceeded by the 'Tarmac', I believe.

    From what i've heard of them, they're supposedly about as good as R888s, but are obviously a hell of a lot cheaper.
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #13
    i doubt they will last as well as a r888 as they are a moulded slick.

    ill be buying a new set of dunlop direzzas to try out this year.
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #14
    Toyo t1r's aren't bad at all in the dry...for £27 you can't go wrong tbh...

    Absolute krap in the wet though!
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #15
    T1-R's burn up far too fast in the dry
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport
    #16
    These are what I'll be going for later in the summer.

    More or less the same I guess

    http://www.ears.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=299
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #17
    From personal experience I would rate the a048s slighty better than the r888s, but then it's hard to compare because I ran different suspension set up and chassis set ups with each tyre.
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR View Post
    T1-R's burn up far too fast in the dry
    I did the snow day at Brands with them on and almost a full day with them on last month so they aren't too bad. I did use the 50 profile version though.

    For budget i don't think you can do better but they are so pants in the rain although if you like fwd 'drifting' they are awesome lol
  19. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by titchster View Post
    'RB5's have been superceeded by the 'Tarmac', I believe.

    From what i've heard of them, they're supposedly about as good as R888s, but are obviously a hell of a lot cheaper.
    No still sell rb5 for £61.12 Inc vat delivered my last set lasted longer than r888 and IMO gave better grip!
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #20
    I had by r888's on for 8 trackdays worn passed wear bar now but only had 3-4mm on when bought them 2nd hand! Anyone coming to performance car in park at mallory park,Leicester on sat 21st may? Only £20 for 15mins tracktime and £15 must book in advance as sells out very fast!!! Also thousands of cars on shows 0-60 runs etc I'm booked on goof to have some other Saxo beating scoobies etc
  21. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    i doubt they will last as well as a r888 as they are a moulded slick.

    ill be buying a new set of dunlop direzzas to try out this year.
    the direzzas are great. We found the fronts wore quickly on the nose heavy Lupo. If you have not got a smooth throttle control with your turbo setup you might want something a little harder in compound
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #22
    Can only go off my experience on track with my near 160bhp Saxo edges wore quicker but main tread lasted better! Especially now nearly have price of r888 as toyo have gone to expensive now IMO ok 2nd hand if price right
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti
    #23
    cheers for this thread!! will be buying these in stead off £100 a corner A048s now
  24. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jimmy-Boy View Post
    cheers for this thread!! will be buying these in stead off £100 a corner A048s now
    No worries that's what forums are for
  25. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    the direzzas are great. We found the fronts wore quickly on the nose heavy Lupo. If you have not got a smooth throttle control with your turbo setup you might want something a little harder in compound
    true, ive used them on a couple of 500kg westfields and im impressed.

    ill have to get in contact with a dunlop dealer and see if they do different compounds.
    like you say, with my setup and also doing nurburgring laps i dont want something that will go off on me 3/4 of the way round the track.
  26. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 543 Phase-II VTR
    #26
    Good to hear you liked your RB5's.

    I was weary of them with them being remoulds, but I thaught sod it, they're cheap enough and when being used for sprinting they're unlikely to overheat and delaminate.
    Had 4 of them fitted round my VTR wheels and out of the 4, 3 of them had eggs in the sidewalls

    Had them removed and replaced with the Toyo's which were on offer at the time so weren't that much more. Been impressed so far but the prices have gone stupid so will hive the A048 a try next.

    What was the wear like on your RB's?
  27. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    Toyo t1r's aren't bad at all in the dry...for £27 you can't go wrong tbh...

    Absolute krap in the wet though!
    Buy some decent tyre's and if you had a lot of power to put down you would see why theyre crap. Why spend loads of money on suspension making it handle if the tyre's slide.

    They're my wet weather tyre's for when I just can't get any heat in the r888s at the rear.
  28. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JoshB View Post
    These are what I'll be going for later in the summer.

    More or less the same I guess

    http://www.ears.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=299
    I tried these on a spirited drive on a completly standard vtr and really enjoyed them, never had anything to compare too tho
  29. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Buy some decent tyre's and if you had a lot of power to put down you would see why theyre crap. Why spend loads of money on suspension making it handle if the tyre's slide.

    They're my wet weather tyre's for when I just can't get any heat in the r888s at the rear.
    I don't have a lot of power to put down and neither do most people who own saxo's. Just think with my spec and some dry weather and once they are warmed up they really aren't too bad. However i only have experience of t1R's T1S's and proxes 4's and nankangs the latter are as bad as having tyres made from ice!
  30. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jonathon5 View Post
    Avon acb10's Are another option, very light tyre
    +1.
  31. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719
    #31
    I will give these a try in the future, 185.55.14 is the size I'm going for
  32. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_P View Post
    +1.
    me also acb10,s are the biz
    and for wet,s avon cr28S-cannot be beaten . not to be confused with normal road version,although road legal,just what you need for the wetdays at doune dave
    I have set of four in 185x60x14" of these --no good to me now as car is on large rim size now . approx 6mm of tread depth on all no half sensible offer refused, also have 3 worn acb10 15"
  33. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #33
    Got the acb10s yesterday to try thanks axsaxoman-GMC look wide before fitting them can anyone tell me difference in mm of these which r 7" wide or 7-22-15 to Toyo which r 195/50-15 as tyre convector don't do it
  34. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #34
    They're a 195-45-15. Doesn't it say that on the tyre beside the 7-22-15?

    Dont inflate them to 30+ psi like a radial tyre.
  35. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #35
    O my god it does they are 195 45 15s cheers even better acceleration than my 50 profile what pressure would you Recomends then for track only use when cold and hot
  36. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #36
    I need one more Avon ACB10 in a 195 45 15 as now have 3 cash waiting must have atleast 1.6mm or more preferred!!!
  37. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #37
    Try high teens to low/mid 20's pressure wise and see how you get on.
  38. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #38
    When cold?? Will be running a pair of them on either front or bqack open to suggestion as only have thre with either full slicks or r888's whihc would give nearest grip levels to match acb10's??? And whihc way round would you run them??
  39. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #39
    Ye cold.

    What slicks do you have? Radial or Crossply?

    Its not ideal running different tyres like you suggest.
  40. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #40
    No idea are bf goodrich
  41. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #41
    I think they'll be radials.
  42. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #42
    So should I put ACB10's or slicks on front!?
  43. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy
    #43
    just picked up a set of part worn avon cr500 anyone used these before, they are 195/45/15 ,will be trying them on my 172 clio at croft this comming bank holiday monday
  44. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jzink View Post
    So should I put ACB10's or slicks on front!?
    If you like oversteer put the slicks on up front.
  45. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #45
    If anyone has part worns that they are getting rid of in R wheel size PM me....only need to be road legal for one days thrashing Long shot i Know!
  46. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 South Birmingham Posts: 919 VTS 190BHP per ton track car for sale! New Qashqai
    #46
    bought another pair of avon acb10's cheap of ebay so will be fitting them all round when r888's wear out
  47. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068
    #47
    Went to Japfest on Saturday and Maxxis were there showing some new tyres they are about to launch...one of them being a road legal track tyre! Extremely similar tread pattern to R888's, the bloke I spoke with said it should be available in more than one compound and retailers will be launching it around £50-60 to get a nice big chunk of the market away from Toyo with the R888! So hopefully we might be able to review these soon!

    http://www.maxxis.co.uk/tyre-details/199
  48. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by qrty View Post
    Went to Japfest on Saturday and Maxxis were there showing some new tyres they are about to launch...one of them being a road legal track tyre! Extremely similar tread pattern to R888's, the bloke I spoke with said it should be available in more than one compound and retailers will be launching it around £50-60 to get a nice big chunk of the market away from Toyo with the R888! So hopefully we might be able to review these soon!

    http://www.maxxis.co.uk/tyre-details/199

    good heads up there mate cheers
  49. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #49
    tread depth aint that great though. migh not last too long.

    hopefully they will bring out some in 205 width
  50. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5362
    #50
    Heybit off topic but didn't want any fanny hole posting, I just got some ACB and there 215/40/15.

    My rims are chronos which are 15 inch and a J6.5. Would the tyres fit ok and safe, or is there going to be a problem?

    cheers
  51. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #51
    You mean 8-22-15? If so you really want a 8" rim.

    You can fit the 7-22-15 on a 6.5" rim but 7" is preferable.
  52. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5362
    #52
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_P View Post
    You mean 8-22-15? If so you really want a 8" rim.

    You can fit the 7-22-15 on a 6.5" rim but 7" is preferable.
    there 8.0/22.0-15. Ah I take them to me local tyre place and see if they will fit them and what they look like.

    Avon say they fit from j7-j8.5 i think.
    Wish I kept me TD'S they were J7 lol.

    thanks and sorry for the digression.