1.5 desiel engine change problems

1. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

   #1 29th March 2011, 22:52

   Where so I start.
   
   First of all it's a 106 but they are basically the same,
   
   The car is a mk2 and has had a donar engine from a supposed mk2, we found that it was also fitted to some mk1's and the only difference being the fuel pump.
   
   Anyway we hve used the loom gearbox and starter motor off the previous engine.
   
   The car turned over at first but struggled and the starter motor was making a horrible noise. We thought that the starter might have been damaged so swapped it for another that matched the engine and were still getting a horrible noise, the car starts and runs fine after it's just your starting it.
   
   
   Anyone know what it might be, we really don't know what it could be,
2. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #2 29th March 2011, 22:54

   worn ring gear on the flywheel maybe?
3. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

   #3 29th March 2011, 23:09

   Someone told me taking the flywheel off and turning it 90 degrees can help, cause the engine will only fire at top dead centre or bottom dead centre, anyone heard of this before?
4. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

   #4 29th March 2011, 23:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 worn ring gear on the flywheel maybe?

   These easy to change? How much are they?
   
   Thanks for the help
5. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #5 29th March 2011, 23:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Futurism Someone told me taking the flywheel off and turning it 90 degrees can help, cause the engine will only fire at top dead centre or bottom dead centre, anyone heard of this before?

   yes it can work, we used to do it on big diesels on plant machinery but on a car where parts are readily available its not worth the hassle. Haven't you got the flywheel off the old engine?
6. citroen_saxo_vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Norwich Posts: 2823 Vectra sri 2.6 v6

   #6 29th March 2011, 23:17

   I was going to say flywheel, the teeth could be damaged.
7. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

   #7 29th March 2011, 23:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 yes it can work, we used to do it on big diesels on plant machinery but on a car where parts are readily available its not worth the hassle. Haven't you got the flywheel off the old engine?

   
   Yeah that sounds a better idea,
8. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

   #8 30th March 2011, 22:10

   Just to close the thread the fly wheel was the source of the problem.
   
   Swapped the one off the other engine and the car is running sweet now =]
   
   Thanks for all the help
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 30th March 2011, 22:30

   Jason the badman hit the nail on the head, tru G lol