Driveshaft or cambelt

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 bath Posts: 200 saxo vtr
    #1
    hi just wondering if anyone has opinion on what i should get fixed first i have a vtr with 60k no mods atm,
    Cambelt
    driveshaft
    drivers side cv joint gaiter
    and there is a slight blow in the exhuast
    thanks
  2. Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno
    #2
    Cambelt would be on the top of my list, if that snaps then you will bend the valves, and that would be expensive
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 gateshead Posts: 807 vw golf GTI citroen saxo forte 02 plate vw polo
    #3
    i agree with snakeVTR, if the belt snaps its f??ked and will cost a load to sort mate
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford
    #4
    cambelt
    cv boot
    driveshaft
    exhaust
  5. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #5
    Exhaust first, there will be Co fumes and reduced fuel consumption. Cambelt is ok till 70k at least. CV boot 2nd
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
    Exhaust first, there will be Co fumes and reduced fuel consumption. Cambelt is ok till 70k at least. CV boot 2nd
    Strange logic there, 99% of people would change the belt first - considering its a 10+ year old car. you can drive your car forever without an exhaust but you cant drive a car with an engine thats eaten itself.
  7. Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
    Exhaust first, there will be Co fumes and reduced fuel consumption. Cambelt is ok till 70k at least. CV boot 2nd
    cambelts intervals are due by years as well as Mileage, a 10 year old cambelt with 10k miles wear and tear could be as weak as a 3 year old belt with 60k wear and tear remember rubber perishes over time
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR View Post
    cambelts intervals are due by years as well as Mileage, a 10 year old cambelt with 10k miles wear and tear could be as weak as a 3 year old belt with 60k wear and tear remember rubber perishes over time
    Wouldnt risk it, its cheap, quick and easy so why not - its just like a full service to me. I suppose"some" people would let it slide but I wouldnt!
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 gateshead Posts: 807 vw golf GTI citroen saxo forte 02 plate vw polo
    #9
    the belts can snapped way before the replacement interval, its worth paying to get it changed now then to have to pay for it later plus head gasket, valves and hours of labour
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  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405
    #10
    As above, cambelts don't just wear from mileage, they wear from age, like tyres.

    I would get the cambelt done, then cv gaitor, then exhaust and shaft.

    However, what quotes are you getting for all of this work? I'm confident i can beat them.
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 bath Posts: 200 saxo vtr
    #11
    um havent had a quote for the cambelt but for the driveshaft i got quoted £190 for that and the gaiter on the other side, thanks for all the comments will get a quote soon
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405
    #12
    Hmm, depending on which gaitor it it and which shaft needs replacing i could do that for about £160 - including fresh gear oil.

    Cambelt, tensioner and waterpump is £170, with fresh coolant.

    Just a warning either way, most people dont know there's a difference in the shafts so people get it wrong easily.
  13. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 gateshead Posts: 807 vw golf GTI citroen saxo forte 02 plate vw polo
    #13
    thats not a bad price for a full timing belt kit and water pump that like
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  14. Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lillocky View Post
    um havent had a quote for the cambelt but for the driveshaft i got quoted £190 for that and the gaiter on the other side, thanks for all the comments will get a quote soon
    if you can learn to do it youself, you could have it done for £60. i replaced both driveshafts on my car for about £100 and less than 2 hours work
  15. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by johnr32 View Post
    Strange logic there, 99% of people would change the belt first - considering its a 10+ year old car. you can drive your car forever without an exhaust but you cant drive a car with an engine thats eaten itself.
    Not strange at all. Firstly you can't drive your car forever without an exhaust- it will get worse until either you lose your hearing or lose your license or lose consciousness, or all three.

    Secondly if its a ten year old car its probably been done already. You will be able to tell by taking the top cover off and looking at the markings on the belt. If its the original belt itll last till 70k easy. All this rubber ageing is bollox, Ive stored tyres on wheels out in the open for years and theyve been fine. Only come across a cambelt failure obce that was a 14 year old Escort with 93k miles, original belt.
  16. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 gateshead Posts: 807 vw golf GTI citroen saxo forte 02 plate vw polo
    #16
    its the case if there is no history, ya can never tell the condition of the belt even if it has marks on it, its really a gamble not getting it changed like
  17. Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 paisley Posts: 1211 supercharged vts, R324r gtr, Rb30 R32 gtr.
    #17
    i would prob say exhaust for personal safety( co2/ co gasses can get in through the car depending on where the blow is on the system) then cv joint then belt, but if you do not care about your own safety more how long will the car last then do the belt first, a snapped belt will f@ck your engine right up..
  18. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by seddon89 View Post
    its the case if there is no history, ya can never tell the condition of the belt even if it has marks on it, its really a gamble not getting it changed like
    Obviously its recommended to change the belt but the OP set us a dilemma of which to do first!
  19. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 gateshead Posts: 807 vw golf GTI citroen saxo forte 02 plate vw polo
    #19
    its the case whats wrong with the shaft
  20. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 174
    #20
    CHANGE THE BELT! you wont have a car if it snaps, if you dont know when its been done then get it done! all the other parts are minor compared to a snapped belt! there meant to be changed every 70-80k or 5 years but thats ridiculous as they will snap quicker due to things like being driven hard or oil contamination.
  21. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by simonwillis1988 View Post
    CHANGE THE BELT! you wont have a car if it snaps, if you dont know when its been done then get it done! all the other parts are minor compared to a snapped belt! there meant to be changed every 70-80k or 5 years but thats ridiculous as they will snap quicker due to things like being driven hard or oil contamination.
    Thats bollox, what difference does hard driving make?? If anything a lot of town and stop start driving will wear the belt, in town there are more revs per mile, and stop start means more heating/cooling cycles.