1.5 Diesel Gearbox in VTR?

1. Alvinums L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Redditch Posts: 68 Saxo VTR Yellow

   #1 7th April 2011, 14:28

   Yo my vtr gearbox is fucked so im looking to replace it.
   I've heard 1.5 diesel gearbox is probably the best to replace it with as its stronger or something.
   So i'd like to know would it be better than standard vtr gearbox?
   Will it be a bit faster in lower gears n slower in top end?
   
   Cheers guys
2. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #2 7th April 2011, 15:04

   Correct me if i'm wrong but i'm sure the VTR and 1.5D box have the same final drive therefore basically the same box. No, it won't be faster in lower gears. If you want a box which is slower top end but faster acceleration go for a S1 or S2 Rallye box. Even the VTS box will be an improvement over the VTR one.
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 7th April 2011, 15:10

   Not sure why people always assume a diesel gearbox is stronger, but no they aint and it wont be quicker either.
4. pepsimax Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Swindon Posts: 358 Mk1 black VTR16V. Civic Vtec. YZF R6'10.

   #4 7th April 2011, 21:23

   probably coz diesels in general have a fook load of torque, so it would make sense to manufacture a stronger box to deal with so much torque.
5. Alvinums L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Redditch Posts: 68 Saxo VTR Yellow

   #5 8th April 2011, 09:13

   So it will be basically the same as the vtr gearbox then boys?
6. Juggyluggs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2010 Moke's Master!!! Posts: 3434 Ibiza Formula Sport Yammy yzf r6

   #6 8th April 2011, 09:40

   yes it will be
7. Gary-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Colchester/Harwich, Essex Posts: 2208 EG Civic Turbo & CRX Del Sol VTi

   #7 8th April 2011, 09:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by pepsimax probably coz diesels in general have a fook load of torque, so it would make sense to manufacture a stronger box to deal with so much torque.

   A whopping 70lb-ft of torque! Diesel Paxos are less torquey than Furios.
8. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #8 8th April 2011, 09:52

   everyone knows saxos 1.5d have shitloads of torque
9. pepsimax Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Swindon Posts: 358 Mk1 black VTR16V. Civic Vtec. YZF R6'10.

   #9 9th April 2011, 14:13

   in general that was, look at 306 dt's man, you will see why people get the idea.
10. Karlb1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aylesbury Posts: 1868 Seat Leon Cupra tdi

    #10 10th April 2011, 16:22

    KrisB might have a Rallye box kicking about still if you fancy messaging him, but they 1.5D box is identical to the VTR one, Furio boes have faster acceleration but lower top-end, there's a sticky somewhere with the ratios for all the gearboxes on it

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11. Alvinums L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Redditch Posts: 68 Saxo VTR Yellow

    #11 14th April 2011, 00:19

    will a 1.5 diesel fit straight in or will i have to change drive shafts or anything?
12. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #12 14th April 2011, 09:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alvinums will a 1.5 diesel fit straight in or will i have to change drive shafts or anything?

    all boxes will fit. the only problems you'd have is putting a vtr/s box onto a lower model, as the driveshafts dont quite sit. the other way, however, is fine (have a 1.1 box on mine!)
    
    as for boxes to pick, if you want it to stay about the same to drive, get a vtr box. pretty sure the diesel box is similar to that but with a weaker diff. if you're after better accelleration, get a shorter box from say, a 1.1 or an XSI, or a rallye if you can find one!
13. user_46038 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Worcestershire Posts: 572 206 RC 180

    #13 14th April 2011, 09:25

    this is handy im looking into replacing my gearbox and cant really afford a refurbished one right now, had a look around and 1.1 boxes seem to be abit cheaper
14. Alvinums L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Redditch Posts: 68 Saxo VTR Yellow

    #14 14th April 2011, 11:28

    Cheers mate, so 1.1 box will fit straight in then? because i was thinking about getting one of those as i just lost the bid on ebay for 1.5 diesel gearbox :-(
15. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #15 14th April 2011, 11:41

    I might be wrong, but is the 1.5D box not the same as a Furio box - i.e. same final drive and non-sports cluster? The VTR box has the sports cluster.
16. Slugshead Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cardiff Posts: 1087 1.4 Red Westcoast Mk2 Posi Blue VTS

    #16 14th April 2011, 15:24

    Cough, BE4R if you can get it to fit
17. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #17 14th April 2011, 23:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alvinums Cheers mate, so 1.1 box will fit straight in then? because i was thinking about getting one of those as i just lost the bid on ebay for 1.5 diesel gearbox :-(

    It will indeed, just no hard launches