Important! : MOT failed, need some advice guys :(

1. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

   #1 14th April 2011, 18:26

   ok guys so my car went through its mot on monday and failed.. badly, good thing is most of it is easilly fixable except this one problem, on the sheet it says that both wheels are fouling a part of the vehicle... now hes told me that the wheels are rubbing because it is so low, so i asked him what the problem was as it was the same height and the same suspension as last year and passed the mot fine... he told me the suspension had dropped ??!! then he said i have got to either get the car raised at the front (which im not doing) or get lower profile tyres, ive asked around and aparently you cant get lower than 45 on the vts rim ?!?! what the fook should i do ???
   
   would fitting a set of vtr wheels or steelies solve this problem ?? surely if the suspension had dropped it would fail for being damaged ?? is he bullshitting me?? i rang another wheel place and they said that fitting 10mm spacer would solve this problem buti dont see how ??? i really dont know what im gonna do and my fucking retest is a week on monday !!!
2. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

   #2 14th April 2011, 18:38

   if its the rear wheel more than likely axle is knackerd with excesive camber causing it to rub
3. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

   #3 14th April 2011, 18:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by GRAHAM2000VTR if its the rear wheel more than likely axle is knackerd with excesive camber causing it to rub

   sorry forgot to mention its the two front wheels
4. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

   #4 14th April 2011, 18:42

   take the inner arch pannel out and see if its stop if it fouling somthing. if its when on full lock could maybe look into spacers but 9 times out of 10 taking the arch linning with be anoth then you can just put it back on after mot
5. Nathan-HxC Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Bath, South West Posts: 1081 16v VTR

   #5 14th April 2011, 18:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by beermonstah sorry forgot to mention its the two front wheels

   Can you not just fit smaller wheels and put it through again? Like some shite 14" thin steels from a lower spec Sax or something?
6. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

   #6 14th April 2011, 18:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by GRAHAM2000VTR take the inner arch pannel out and see if its stop if it fouling somthing. if its when on full lock could maybe look into spacers but 9 times out of 10 taking the arch linning with be anoth then you can just put it back on after mot

   hmm yeah maybe, its just odd cuz its rubbed on full lock ever since i lowered it two years ago and nobody has noticed it before lol feels like there just trying to be cunts if am honest
7. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

   #7 14th April 2011, 18:50

   does sound like a over striked tester but if thats what he has said then so be it
8. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

   #8 14th April 2011, 19:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by GRAHAM2000VTR does sound like a over striked tester but if thats what he has said then so be it

   think im just going to fix what i can and go for a retest failing that ill go
   somewhere else
9. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

   #9 14th April 2011, 19:05

   is it rubbing on the tread part or the sidewall?
10. spudders Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 shrewsbury Posts: 476 306 dturbo x2 saxo vtr

    #10 14th April 2011, 19:52

    you can leagally fit diffrent sized wheels on front and back as long as they are the same profile and width on each axle mine passed on tuesday with 195/45/15s on the front nd 185/55/14 on the rear so just do that matey
11. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #11 14th April 2011, 19:59

    Just take the arch liners off gives you a extra 15mm of play was way more than enough to get mine through. Or get 2 cheap shitty 5mm spacers from your local Asian motor factors and remove arch liners will give you loads of room .
12. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #12 15th April 2011, 17:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gaz4399 is it rubbing on the tread part or the sidewall?

    doesnt say on the sheet, but im presuming the outter tread on both inside arch liners, thats the only place they rub on full lock
13. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #13 15th April 2011, 17:40

    think im going to have to remove the bloody arch liners that ive only just refitted and buy some more plastic rivets to put em back on afterwards
    
    eitherway i very much doubt the car is goin to be ready in time for the free retest which is also crap
14. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #14 15th April 2011, 18:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beermonstah doesnt say on the sheet, but im presuming the outter tread on both inside arch liners, thats the only place they rub on full lock

    sounds like its the sides of the tyre on the inner arch. just get some small spacers to bring the wheels away from the liners.
    
    edit, just noticed you have vts wheels, they should have no issues whatsoever, are you sure your liners are in the correct position?
15. danny-boi Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 worcester Posts: 471 saxo furio

    #15 15th April 2011, 18:58

    get a set of ford alleycat wheels 20mm spacers and loner wheel nuts nice 13" should miss it then
16. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #16 18th April 2011, 18:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gaz4399 sounds like its the sides of the tyre on the inner arch. just get some small spacers to bring the wheels away from the liners. edit, just noticed you have vts wheels, they should have no issues whatsoever, are you sure your liners are in the correct position?

    yeah they are all clipped in the right position, they have rubbed on full lock ever since the car was lowered
17. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #17 18th April 2011, 19:17

    Taking it for an MOT elsewhere solved my problem.
18. RickVTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Leyland, Lancashire Posts: 265 2000 Saxo VTR

    #18 18th April 2011, 20:28

    some people just hate modified cars...was he an old boy? the older ones hate anything non standard
    
    hope you get it sorted
19. tomnelson Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 coalville Posts: 711 project flat arch

    #19 18th April 2011, 20:42

    just put some steelies on the front take it to him and show him it doesnt rub go home put wheels back on sorted
20. citroen_saxo_vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Norwich Posts: 2823 Vectra sri 2.6 v6

    #20 18th April 2011, 21:45

    its being petty failing it on something like that, mine rubs on the front when on full lock but its not everyday you full lock your car besides its rubber on plastic.... its not going to wear anything apart from a hole in the plastic. my inner guards are shagged anyway lol.
21. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #21 19th April 2011, 07:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by outrage_uk Taking it for an MOT elsewhere solved my problem.

    well thats what im thinking now, do i send it in for the free retest or leave it and take it somewhere else when ive got all the problems fixed ?!!
22. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #22 19th April 2011, 07:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RickVTR some people just hate modified cars...was he an old boy? the older ones hate anything non standard hope you get it sorted

    same guy who did it last year lol quite a young guy id say in his 30s
23. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #23 19th April 2011, 07:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomnelson just put some steelies on the front take it to him and show him it doesnt rub go home put wheels back on sorted

    yeah but then ive got to source some and spend money i dont have to so im trying to stay away from that option if i can dude
24. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #24 19th April 2011, 07:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by citroen_saxo_vtr its being petty failing it on something like that, mine rubs on the front when on full lock but its not everyday you full lock your car besides its rubber on plastic.... its not going to wear anything apart from a hole in the plastic. my inner guards are shagged anyway lol.

    hmm its rediculous, he said that the wheels are wearing away the metal ?! and that the shoocks had dropped, surely if that had happened then it would be the suspension that is faulty ... got the feeling he is just trying to get buisness for the garage
25. forbessid Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Cheshire Posts: 621 mk2 Icelandic Vts.

    #25 25th April 2011, 01:22

    my vts is lowered 40mm all round i had to take my 16" alloys off every mot and put vtr alloys on for it to pass cos on full lock with 16's it would rub on chassis.