Spraying Front grill

1. Lukus-vtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Mansfield/Nottinghamshire Posts: 586 Austin Mini Mayfair Saxo VTR Punto MK2B Sporting

   #1 26th April 2011, 17:06

   Hi Guys!
   
   I own a MkII black VTR and I want to sort out the faded grill. What shall I do?
   
   I want to spray it not use back to black. Can I just use gloss black or do I have to use the same colour as the car. What is the colour code for a black vtr? I know its on the inside of my door but I can't quite check atm!
   
   All help appreciated!
2. user_41194 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Bournemouth/Surrey Posts: 2458 Mk2 VTR

   #2 26th April 2011, 17:23

   Check your colour code here
   
   Its a piece of piss just undo 7 torx bolts and it pops out
   Just pull the chevrons off (i broke one of mine)
   Sand the bugger down
   Plastic primer
   Black
   Laquer
   Pop back in

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3. samburton53 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Norwich Posts: 247 2002 Citroen Saxo VTR, 2001 Fiat Punto

   #3 26th April 2011, 17:33

   I'd get Halfrauds to mix up some colour matched paint for it, It'll look much better than just gloss black.
   
   As above: whip it out, sand it down, primer, paint, lacquer.
   
   Ideally, you should leave it to dry for 24 hours between paint and lacquer, and then another 24 hours for the lacquer to dry... But it really just depends on how good of a job you want to do of it.
4. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #4 26th April 2011, 17:33

   Just get any gloss black aerosol will be fine you will need to rub the grill down with 600 wet and dry first then plastic prime before applying the gloss black mate.
5. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #5 26th April 2011, 17:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by samburton53 I'd get Halfrauds to mix up some colour matched paint for it, It'll look much better than just gloss black.

   no it wont it will be exactly the same.
6. samburton53 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Norwich Posts: 247 2002 Citroen Saxo VTR, 2001 Fiat Punto

   #6 26th April 2011, 17:40

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   Originally Posted by bedford126 no it wont it will be exactly the same.

   It will be fairly similar. As I said, it just depends on how picky you are. If you want it in exactly the same finish, go for the colour matched and lacquered, but you just want it looking more presentable, plain gloss will do the job fine.
   
   Although you should probably lacquer over the gloss if you want the paint to stay on for any length of time.
7. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #7 26th April 2011, 17:56

   do you actually know anything about painting? Gloss black is gloss black the only gloss black that has another tinter other than black is for the bmw x5. Gloss black in a aerosol will be the perfect match no need to get it mixed.
   
   I wound't get any paint from halford's try your local trade paint supplier for a paint called "u-pol power can gloss black" or "body line gloss black trade spray".

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8. samburton53 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Norwich Posts: 247 2002 Citroen Saxo VTR, 2001 Fiat Punto

   #8 26th April 2011, 18:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bedford126 do you actually know anything about painting? Gloss black is gloss black the only gloss black that has another tinter other than black is for the bmw x5. Gloss black in a aerosol will be the perfect match no need to get it mixed. I wound't get any paint from halford's try your local trade paint supplier for a paint called "u-pol power can gloss black" or "body line gloss black trade spray".

   I thought we were discussing paint, rather than painting?
   
   Not Arguing with you mate, just wasn't aware that every black car on the road uses the same colour paint, apart from the BMW X5?
9. lukasvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 wakefield Posts: 152 Peugeot 106 GTI

   #9 26th April 2011, 18:10

   citroen black.
10. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

    #10 26th April 2011, 22:01

    have a look at my progress thread, my standard colour coded grill (see pic on page 1) is gloss black, you can hardly see the difference!
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=363862
11. user_41194 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Bournemouth/Surrey Posts: 2458 Mk2 VTR

    #11 26th April 2011, 22:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bedford126 do you actually know anything about painting? Gloss black is gloss black the only gloss black that has another tinter other than black is for the bmw x5. Gloss black in a aerosol will be the perfect match no need to get it mixed. I wound't get any paint from halford's try your local trade paint supplier for a paint called "u-pol power can gloss black" or "body line gloss black trade spray".

    
    Im sure this is not true
    The outcome might be very similar but there are different inputs
    
    I mix paint at halfords and every black i have done has been different, most have a drop of pink and white and some have some dark blues etc - and thats just metallic
    Pearl is different and my old car was 'ash black' and had a hint of grey when looked at.
    
    There are different names of paint for a reasons, otherwise ford (for example) would not have 14 different names for the same paint, not even they are that stupid
12. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

    #12 26th April 2011, 22:07

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    Originally Posted by ChrisE Im sure this is not true The outcome might be very similar but there are different inputs I mix paint at halfords and every black i have done has been different, most have a drop of pink and white and some have some dark blues etc - and thats just metallic Pearl is different and my old car was 'ash black' and had a hint of grey when looked at. There are different names of paint for a reasons, otherwise ford (for example) would not have 14 different names for the same paint, not even they are that stupid

    off topic i know, but i see you're from surrey chris... doesnt happen to be guildford halfords?
13. user_41194 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Bournemouth/Surrey Posts: 2458 Mk2 VTR

    #13 26th April 2011, 22:25

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    Originally Posted by UKtom off topic i know, but i see you're from surrey chris... doesnt happen to be guildford halfords?

    nope new malden
    
    guildfords only just over half hour away though lol
    
    why do you ask?
14. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

    #14 26th April 2011, 22:26

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    Originally Posted by ChrisE nope new malden guildfords only just over half hour away though lol why do you ask?

    just being nosey, haha a couple of my friends work in the guildford branch - thought you may know them
15. user_41194 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Bournemouth/Surrey Posts: 2458 Mk2 VTR

    #15 26th April 2011, 22:27

    Nope
    But if im ever in there (highly doubt it) ill ask if they know a twat called tom that drives a french tin
16. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

    #16 26th April 2011, 22:36

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    Originally Posted by ChrisE Nope But if im ever in there (highly doubt it) ill ask if they know a twat called tom that drives a french tin

    LOL yeah cool beans sad thing is, they will instantly know who youre talking about
17. Lukus-vtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Mansfield/Nottinghamshire Posts: 586 Austin Mini Mayfair Saxo VTR Punto MK2B Sporting

    #17 27th April 2011, 01:14

    Cheers guys. I'll just try gloss black for the mean time see how it turns out. Any idea how many coats of primer / paint I should use?