Car Won't Start?

1. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

   #1 26th April 2011, 17:19

   Hi guys, got in my car this morning go to work, and the car wouldn't start. Its turning over so its not the battery. It has done it before, but the yellow light on my dash has been on, so i've turned ignition off, back on, waited for yellow light to go out then its been fine, which i'm guessing is something to do with the immoboliser. But this morning i tried it, and there was no yellow light or anything, i tried for about 5 minutes and nothing. My dad has had a look at it, and he said there looks to be no spark from the spark plugs, which he says is usually a immoboliser problem. Anybody had this problem before or any suggestions? Thanks
2. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

   #2 29th April 2011, 10:13

   Right, so my dad had a look at it again on wednesday, he said he checked the fueses etc and then saw a red button next to the catch that holds the bonnet up? He pressed the red button and heard like a click, then it started perfectly fine. Tried it again a few times within 15 minute intervals or so, and it was fine, thought right sussed it. Yesterday morning, gets to go o work, wouldn't start again, bitch. So i pressed red button under the bonnet about 10 times in frustration and tiredness and it started fine. Since then i've found out that button is the fuel cut off valve. So is it something to do with the fuel pump earth or a dodgy fuel pump?
3. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #3 29th April 2011, 10:25

   is the fuel pump priming?
4. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #4 29th April 2011, 10:36

   Check earths, i'd say it could be the chassis earth needs tightening.
5. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

   #5 29th April 2011, 10:39

   how do you mean priming? Ok ill check the earth thanks
6. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

   #6 29th April 2011, 10:55

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by TheVtrKid how do you mean priming? Ok ill check the earth thanks

   When you turn the key to second click you should hear the fuel pump prime.
7. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

   #7 29th April 2011, 11:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gibbo-Vtr When you turn the key to second click you should hear the fuel pump prime.

   I cant say ive really noticed to be honest, wether it starts or not lol
8. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

   #8 29th April 2011, 11:07

   Go into your car,
   Turn the key two clicks not 3.
   and just see if you can hear it prime mate.
9. lukasvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 wakefield Posts: 152 Peugeot 106 GTI

   #9 29th April 2011, 11:26

   as above^ mine wouldnt start a while ago and noticed the fuel pump wasnt priming.
10. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #10 29th April 2011, 11:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lukasvts as above^ mine wouldnt start a while ago and noticed the fuel pump wasnt priming.

    How did you sort yours?
    What was wrong.
11. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #11 29th April 2011, 15:49

    Probably realised the cut off switch needed pressing or the fuel pump was screwed?
12. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #12 29th April 2011, 15:52

    Fixed now?
13. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

    #13 29th April 2011, 17:25

    i can hear something yeah when i turn the key. What does it sound like though when it primes? It sounds in a way like an aerial going up?
14. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #14 29th April 2011, 17:26

    Sounds a bit like when a printer is printing paper.
15. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #15 29th April 2011, 17:27

    As random as that sounds but its true lol.
16. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #16 29th April 2011, 17:29

    It buzz's up, BzzzzzZZZ
17. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

    #17 29th April 2011, 17:32

    lol, yeah i can hear that now you've mentioned it but it might not done it when its not started as i dont notice it everytime. If it doesn't prime whats the cause of that?
18. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #18 29th April 2011, 17:38

    When was the last time it was serviced? I changed my fuel filter and then after that when the car primed it was louder, which must mean better flow of fuel, maybe your filter is full of shit and is not getting enough fuel?
19. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #19 29th April 2011, 17:38

    So it does prime?
    It's not that then ..
    If it doesn't prime everytime then it could be your relay,ECU relay,fuse, loom or fuel filter.
20. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

    #20 29th April 2011, 18:38

    last time it was serviced was just before i got it, about 10 month ago or so? Well i think it does prime yes, as i say, i can hear something, sounds like a printer printing lol. Well as it didn't spark when it was turning over and wouldn't start my dad says he thinks its an electrical problem?
21. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #21 29th April 2011, 18:43

    You want to get a voltmeter and check your loom,relays and fuses.
22. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

    #22 29th April 2011, 20:58

    I believe my dad checked all the fuses etc with his voltmeter
23. user_43205 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Ilkeston Derby Posts: 3697 Red Mk1 R Silver Mk2 S & Mk2 Seat Leon.

    #23 29th April 2011, 21:09

    *If it does eventually turn over then stalls itself the icv (idle control valve might need cleaning) petrol usually works best to get all the gunk of it.
    
    *Try pressing the fuel cut off switch, that red button under the bonnet, everytime it doesn't turn over.
    
    *Have you got petrol in it?
    
    *Check any fuses for blows
    
    *Alternatly check for a spark, take the coil pack off and just 1 plug out, put the plug ,that you have taken out into the coil pack and earth that plug against the engine. Get someone to turn the car over (only needs to be once) you should see a strong blue spark from the plug, Check all 4 plugs.
    
    *Might be worth getting your ECU unlocked.
24. TheVtrKid Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Leeds, England Posts: 1885 MG ZR 1.4

    #24 30th April 2011, 10:54

    yes its got petrol in, and once it starts up its fine, it doesn't turn itself off at all. It revs on its own now and again, but thats about it. I will test the other suggestions out mate, thanks