saxo vtr starting problems

1. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

   #1 28th April 2011, 13:13

   hi i have just fitted a 106 gti engine in my vtr
   
   when i turn the key the starter just makes a clicking noise
   
   anybody have any ides what this could be i have used a fully charged battery so i know its not a flat battery
   
   just to make sure the starter is wired up properly should i have 1 wire coming from the battery to the main terminal on the starter and 1thin wire
   cuming from the loom going to the spade conector on the starter
   
   cheers
2. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

   #2 28th April 2011, 21:04

   update:
   
   fitted a new starter today and the engine is turning over strong but the car wont start
   any ideas what the problem is
   
   their is 3 orange lights showing on the dash one is a box with a key in it one is like a number 7 back2front and the last one is the engine management light
3. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #3 28th April 2011, 21:17

   With the engine were you givin the Immbolisher box with the ECU? Sounds like your ECU is locked
4. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

   #4 28th April 2011, 21:22

   Hi,
   
   If the key light isn't going off it means the immobiliser is ON, did you change the engine ECU as well?
5. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

   #5 28th April 2011, 21:32

   i changed the ecu aswell the guy i got it off told me it was unlocked.the key light doesnt go out it just keeps flashing
6. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

   #6 28th April 2011, 21:36

   what does the imobiliser box look like?
7. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #7 28th April 2011, 21:46

   If there's a key flashing on the dash it will mean the immobiliser.
8. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

   #8 28th April 2011, 21:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Krys_23 If there's a key flashing on the dash it will mean the immobiliser.

   is their any way of turning that off or reseting it ?
9. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

   #9 28th April 2011, 22:03

   If the ECU is unlocked as the previous owner told you then don't mind about the key light flashing, instead try to get a diagnostic machine to read codes from the ECU,
10. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

    #10 28th April 2011, 22:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ecurepair If the ECU is unlocked as the previous owner told you then don't mind about the key light flashing, instead try to get a diagnostic machine to read codes from the ECU,

    im hoping it is unlocked and he hasnt just told me that lol
11. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

    #11 28th April 2011, 22:44

    Then just trying code reading it, you may just have left something disconnected by mistake.
    
    Ps: just so you know if you get stuck and want to make sure that the ECU is unlocked I could always check that for you,
    
    Thanks
    Daniel.
12. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

    #12 30th April 2011, 17:28

    is their any way of turning the imobiliser off ? cheers
13. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #13 30th April 2011, 18:06

    not without either getting the car running or sending the ECU away to get the immobiliser function disabled
14. jaym1806 Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 scotland Posts: 14 clio 172 turbo-saxo vtr/s

    #14 30th April 2011, 18:30

    when i turn the key i can here the noise of the fuel prime would that still do that if it was the imobiliser was on?
15. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

    #15 30th April 2011, 19:58

    Hi, yes even with the immobiliser on the fuel pump should prime for few seconds.
    
    I can remove the immobiliser from your ECU for 55£, but let me know please the ECU part number to confirm this, if you want you can email it to me to: ecurepair.co.uk@gmail.com
    
    Thanks
16. kristel10589 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5362

    #16 1st May 2011, 04:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ecurepair Hi, yes even with the immobiliser on the fuel pump should prime for few seconds. I can remove the immobiliser from your ECU for 55£, but let me know please the ECU part number to confirm this, if you want you can email it to me to: ecurepair.co.uk@gmail.com Thanks

    You charge £55 to remove a tiny black box? Wow.
    
    OP, did you remove your immobilizer box before fitting/connecting the unlocked ecu?
17. kristel10589 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5362

    #17 1st May 2011, 04:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ecurepair If the ECU is unlocked as the previous owner told you then don't mind about the key light flashing, instead try to get a diagnostic machine to read codes from the ECU,

    I take it you don't know that the immobilizer box is seperate to the ecu on saxos and that if you want to bi-pass the immobilizer, all you do is start the engine and then disconnect the imm. box whilst engine running/
18. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

    #18 1st May 2011, 11:54

    Hi,
    
    @kristel10589, no what I meant is that I can decode the ECU for 55£ so he would need to send the ECU to me for unlocking, I understand that you can just remove the immo box but this only apply if that car is running unfortunately this car is not running so there is no way to do it just as removing the immo box.
    
    Thanks