fitting a cone air filter to my vtr?

1. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

   #1 3rd May 2011, 23:00

   had a quick search on here but couldnt find any guides as to how to fit a CONE air filter to a saxo... found a couple with regards to a whole induction kit etc but im just looking to buy a universal cone air filter to fit onto my mk2 vtr. i have taken a picture of the engine bay, so would anyone highlight what i need to do/remove etc to get it fitted? cheers!
   
2. samburton53 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Norwich Posts: 247 2002 Citroen Saxo VTR, 2001 Fiat Punto

   #2 4th May 2011, 12:27

   There's no point really, get an uprated filter to go in your standard airbox instead.
3. Kyza Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1016

   #3 4th May 2011, 12:33

   As above.
   
   Also there is no guide because its so simple to do. Remove the airbox, fit cone. Done.
4. user_48120 Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.

   #4 4th May 2011, 12:38

   i wouldnt bother fitting one unless its enclosed mate.
   
   you'd end up just sucking in more hot air than anything so i'd say raceland closed induction kit
5. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

   #5 4th May 2011, 19:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by samburton53 There's no point really, get an uprated filter to go in your standard airbox instead.

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Kyza As above. Also there is no guide because its so simple to do. Remove the airbox, fit cone. Done.

   my bad perhaps i wont buy a cone air filter then haha
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dunno i wouldnt bother fitting one unless its enclosed mate. you'd end up just sucking in more hot air than anything so i'd say raceland closed induction kit

   if i do decide to get something will probably go for this, although with it being the same price as the cost of lowering my car........................ yeah, lowering it it is
6. user_48120 Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.

   #6 7th May 2011, 20:58

   Yeah definitely lower it first then induction and exhaust
7. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #7 7th May 2011, 21:56

   Cone filter will suck in hot air from the engine and could decrease performance.
   There is a reason air boxes are sealed and have a cold air feed
8. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #8 7th May 2011, 23:19

   sorry to hijack but was wondering would i get better performance with an enclosed induction kit on my vtr then? its got a pipercross cone on it at the moment which is what was already on when i bought the car. Have noticed it really seems sluggish on hot days aswell.
9. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #9 7th May 2011, 23:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte sorry to hijack but was wondering would i get better performance with an enclosed induction kit on my vtr then? its got a pipercross cone on it at the moment which is what was already on when i bought the car. Have noticed it really seems sluggish on hot days aswell.

   Engines like cool air
   
   Cooler air = increased performance
   
   An engine bay is obviously going to be warm because the engine is warm which then heats up the surrounding air
   
   If you have an open (cone) air filter, most of the air it will suck in will be warm air which is being heated by the engine
   The will likely decrease performance
   
   By getting an enclosed induction kit, the filter is covered (so unable to suck in warm air) and you also have a cold air feed going to the front of the engine bay (near the radiator) where it will be able to suck in cooler air, which will increase performance
   
   The gains won't be massive, on a VTS/GTI engine were talking 4-6bhp but combined with a decent manifold, decat and exhaust system, you will notice a performance difference
10. UKtom Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Portsmouth Posts: 1936 Scirocco

    #10 8th May 2011, 10:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Engines like cool air Cooler air = increased performance An engine bay is obviously going to be warm because the engine is warm which then heats up the surrounding air If you have an open (cone) air filter, most of the air it will suck in will be warm air which is being heated by the engine The will likely decrease performance By getting an enclosed induction kit, the filter is covered (so unable to suck in warm air) and you also have a cold air feed going to the front of the engine bay (near the radiator) where it will be able to suck in cooler air, which will increase performance The gains won't be massive, on a VTS/GTI engine were talking 4-6bhp but combined with a decent manifold, decat and exhaust system, you will notice a performance difference

    top guy! cheers for the help devil will get an enclosed induction kit after i get my car lowered friday