Last problem and then the scrapyard beckons for my vtr

1. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

   #1 10th May 2011, 16:56

   right this is the last one im bothering to look into. my car has developed a whining noise, i have a new clutch on, and a used gearbox which were put on 2 days ago and i have had 2 days of bliss driving around. now when i dont touch the accelerator the engine is making a very high pitched whine, on the right side of the cylinder block, sounds like just above the gearbox but not the gearbox, doesnt matter if the clutch is in or our, if im in neutral or driving, if i havent got my foot slightly on the accelerator this whine appears. can anyone help? thanks
2. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

   #2 10th May 2011, 17:00

   It could be the power steering pump? Turn the wheel while the engine is running and see if the whine changes.
3. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

   #3 10th May 2011, 17:01

   i thought that as my power steering cut out earlier and now its working again, BUT it doesnt make any kind of noise when i move the steering wheel . only when im not touching the accelerator
4. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

   #4 10th May 2011, 17:03

   split idle control pipe? actually a whistling noise? or a metallic whine?
5. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

   #5 10th May 2011, 17:07

   kind of whistling actually. its really high pitched. im sitting in traffic with it idling having to put my foot on the pedal to get at least 0.1% higher than my natural idle..
6. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

   #6 10th May 2011, 17:17

   sounds like a split pipe then mate, have a nose around the airbox area, and the pipe that runs to the idle control, either on the left side of the inlet manifold or behind the engine!

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7. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

   #7 10th May 2011, 17:33

   scratch that, its actually metallic noise, i just went out and started it up., definalty something metal. like i said my power steering cut out earlier, its back on now, and i had this light flashing at me, an upside down 7? it flashed for 10 seconds and disappeared. connected do you think?
8. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

   #8 10th May 2011, 17:57

   with my ear to the engine it sounds like its coming from the exhaust manifold area? its wierd!!!
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 10th May 2011, 19:28

   you sure its not the alternator belt lol
   
   try get a video
10. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #10 10th May 2011, 19:32

    Yeh get a Video.
    
    I think it's a split pipe also but I wana hear it please?
11. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #11 10th May 2011, 20:27

    yeh ill get one 2moro morning,i have a full set of fake nails on 2nite ( wifes needed a model for her college work lol) thanks lads
12. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #12 11th May 2011, 13:17

    <embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvid21.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fb262%2Fcarly_gti6%2FVideo0004.mp4">
    
    hope this works, this is the video, i think the whining is really distinct
13. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #13 11th May 2011, 13:17

    http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...=Video0004.mp4
    
    sorry this is it
14. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #14 11th May 2011, 14:31

    Well, your Tappets sound loose lol.
    
    But after hearing that I'm not sure it's a pipe, are you sure that Thrust Bearing is alright?
15. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #15 11th May 2011, 15:52

    the thrust bearing and clutch are brand new on . thats what i originally thought.
16. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #16 11th May 2011, 18:31

    The bit when it gets really loud sounds like metal on metal, Hmm, is it your power steering Pump?
    
    Use a screw driver and see where it's coming from
17. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #17 11th May 2011, 19:14

    its got a bit worse now, its always as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator it literally starts then dies down the lower the revs get. GAR!!!
18. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #18 12th May 2011, 09:47

    because this video was me in neutral and parked up it couldnt be something to do with the gearbox or clutch could it? i mean im not using them as it is just parked up with the pedal pushed in??? im getting desperate here lol
19. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #19 12th May 2011, 09:53

    Does it do it when you're in gear?
20. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #20 12th May 2011, 09:54

    does it when in gear and out of gear. the only constant thing is it happens when i take my foot off the accelerator.
21. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #21 12th May 2011, 09:56

    Does it do it when you take your foot off at higher revs?
    
    Rev to 4k and take it off, does it do it then or only at low revs?
22. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #22 12th May 2011, 10:00

    lol fecking noise, if i rev higher and they drop down the noise comes back at about the same time as when i give it a quick push, theres a point where if i rev the car and release a tiny bit but then keep it steady the noise stays there until i release the pedal more. and it doesnt do it for the first 5 minutes in the morning, only when the cars warming up
23. Gary-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Colchester/Harwich, Essex Posts: 2208 EG Civic Turbo & CRX Del Sol VTi

    #23 12th May 2011, 10:03

    Alternator belt?
    
    Not sure what side it is on a VTR so just a guess really
24. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #24 12th May 2011, 10:06

    my alternator belt isnt in great condition but the noise seems to be come from just up from there, not on the belt or alternator. more towards the actual engine,
25. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #25 12th May 2011, 10:16

    It's on the other side anyway lol.
    
    From what you said then, it does sound like an air leak, all I can say is check all the Vacuum hoses and ICV pipe...
26. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #26 12th May 2011, 10:21

    what ive said sounds like its got nothing to do with the gearbox though doesnt it, i mean it doesnt seem to be involved does it?>
27. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #27 12th May 2011, 10:31

    Not really, I can't do anything for you, I say check the hoses and pipes, I'm sure you're not stupid you'll know when one's leaking lol.
28. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #28 12th May 2011, 14:45

    lol thanks for all the help! i think i might have come up with the answer, my power steering cut out when i went to start the car earlier, so i pulled in to b+q carpark and with the engine still running i hit the power steering pump with the palm of my hand and the engine lost a bit of power for a split second and low and behold the power steering is back on AND the noise has disappeared for the 10 mile drive home even though it was doing it all morning before the punch, so im guessing my pump is knackered/ on the way out.
29. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #29 12th May 2011, 15:37

    Hahaaa I was right before!
    
    change it
30. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #30 12th May 2011, 16:38

    yeh mate. it just didnt click in my mind really i mean there was no noise difference when i moved the steering wheel. i didnt think a push of the accelerator would have made a difference to power steering
31. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #31 12th May 2011, 16:59

    The extra power going to the pump will make it pump faster, so yeh it will lol.
32. ChrisandCarly Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 124 Mk2 vts

    #32 12th May 2011, 20:06

    i appreciate all your help mate. god send to have somebody to talk to about it!!!
33. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #33 12th May 2011, 20:16

    You're welcome mate
    
    Always here to help