Mix and match clutches

  1. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #1
    I'm doing a budget turbo build not likely to exceed 180 bhp and maybe the same in torque if i'm lucky

    I'm looking at clutches and want to upgrade from the standard valeo, but I'm not adding 30% to the budget by getting a £400 helix

    I've been looking on the tweeks website and they do a helix friction plate, 4 paddle sprung in 198mm size for a reasonable price

    Was wondering if I could use that with a slightly uprated pressure plate, and also what size / how many splines are on the MA input shaft as you have to specify this

    Ta!!
  2. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Surrey Posts: 192 TVR cerbera, Saxo VTR
    #2
    You could do mate, although its a bit of a gamble cos if the pressure plate isn't strong enough to hold down the paddles (which it may not be cos there is less to bite on) then it will mean pulling it all apart. I was toying with the idea, but then just decided to go the whole hog. In the end it wasn't worth the potential hassle if it went wrong. Physically it should all fit. Isn't there a GrpN syle one for around £200? Should be fine for 180 bhp as standard ones are okish with about 150.
  3. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #3
    Helix do an organic one for an ok price but then they say max torque is 160 lbft
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #4
    the pressure plate is quite important. also, i dont think it would be a good idea to limit yourself from the off... if you wanted more power late on it would be fairly easy to get it, but then you have to buy a better clutch anyway. just buy one that will take more than you can throw at it.
  5. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #5
    I'd love to but the helix everyone says to go for costs more than it'll cost me to get my engine management installed and mapped!
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    I'd love to but the helix everyone says to go for costs more than it'll cost me to get my engine management installed and mapped!
    you can go for the cg motosport paddle clutch, im sure thats only around 200hp..

    sometimes thats the way it is unfortunately, if you compramise with price you will compramise with reliability.
  7. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #7
    I'll have a look at them then

    I take your point, but trying to go for a clutch closer to my engine spec instead of going overkill doesn't mean I'm compromising reliability
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    I'll have a look at them then

    I take your point, but trying to go for a clutch closer to my engine spec instead of going overkill doesn't mean I'm compromising reliability

    all im saying is getting a clutch thats on your limit isnt great forward planning.
    overkill is better imo.
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Surrey Posts: 192 TVR cerbera, Saxo VTR
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    all im saying is getting a clutch thats on your limit isnt great forward planning.
    overkill is better imo.
    ^^This tbf. Overkill is better from a transmission point of view. Have you tried OMP? They do various grades of clutches etc
  10. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #10
    Funny I was just looking at them and they don't look too bad, that or cg I think

    Thanks guys