Roll cage plans/drawings?

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 326 Reebok Classics.
    #1
    Hi,
    I'm about to buy another Saxo to strip & track. I will be wanting to put a roll cage in it.
    Today at work I was talking to the fabricators and they said they would make me a roll cage if I could supply the plans/drawings?

    Does anybody have any idea where I could find some?

    Thanks
  2. Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio
    #2
    why dont you design your own and make a bit diferent
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 326 Reebok Classics.
    #3
    I wouldn't know where to start. I suppose I could get the guys from work to help out...
  4. Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio
    #4
    haha fair enuf good point though
  5. Regular Poster Joined: May 2011 Belfast Posts: 403 Saxo 1.1 Eastcoast
    #5
    I wouldnt mind some drawings myself
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 127
    #6
    your better off sticking to a design and dont design your own, could be worse off with a badly designed cage than no cage atall, ill try find some drawings for you,
  7. Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo
    #7
    go on custom cages site use tht ideas, if u plan to use it in compertion you cant build your own.
  8. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 326 Reebok Classics.
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by isle-of-mull View Post
    your better off sticking to a design and dont design your own, could be worse off with a badly designed cage than no cage atall, ill try find some drawings for you,
    Sound, cheers mate.
  9. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #9
    sounds like you will spend just as much but instead of parts you will pay for labour hours.
    Have a look at the OMP roll cages on our site for inspiration.
  10. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 326 Reebok Classics.
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    sounds like you will spend just as much but instead of parts you will pay for labour hours.
    Have a look at the OMP roll cages on our site for inspiration.
    Thanks, but the reason I want one making at work, is because it wont cost me a penny
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 127
    #11
    http://www.customcages.co.uk/Rollcag...ype=Multipoint

    couldent find a full plan as such but here is a diagram of the cage thats in my car from custom cages!

    http://www.customcages.co.uk/roll-ca...-fitting-guide

    theres a couple of videos there about fitting your cage which should give you a few ideas!
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Oswestry / Lyneham Posts: 180 1993 106 XSI 1.4 miami 2005 Fiesta mk6
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mark1311 View Post
    go on custom cages site use tht ideas, if u plan to use it in compertion you cant build your own.

    Yes you can! You just have to use all of the correct materials, plates, connecting points etc...Then the scrutineer checks it all over when logbooking.
  13. Newbie Joined: Apr 2011 york Posts: 23 citroen saxo vtr rally car (under construction) B
    #13
    If you wanting to race/ rally it and its your own design i think it will need a Roll over protection certificate, wich would involve a cad stress drawing, a second cage to be fully welded up out side the car and sent away so it can be tested (destroyed), and alot of cash for the paper work so iv been led to belive. ( i could be wrong tho). If you read the msa blue book ( uk motorsport rule book) it says ur not aloud to add any extra bars even to add strength to proper cage so reading between the lines diy cage big no.

    Hope that helps.
  14. L-plater Joined: Jun 2013 Birmingham UK Posts: 99 2003 Saxo VTR 1998 Saxo VTS
    #14
    I have just spoken to the MSA in this matter this morning on making your own roll bar and your own design . As long as the basic requirements are met I.e min of 6 points , a single diagonal at the rear and a door bar on each door the deign is up to you. There is no certification required for the bar although it would be beneficial to have the metal used certified, or a certificate produced from the metal supplier
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064
    #15
    3yr bump!!!!!
  16. L-plater Joined: Jun 2013 Birmingham UK Posts: 99 2003 Saxo VTR 1998 Saxo VTS
    #16
    Does it matter . It may be relevant to new members to the forum.
  17. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Scotland Posts: 1764 Because racecar
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rallynavigator View Post
    Does it matter . It may be relevant to new members to the forum.
    Very handy info tbh.

    I'd always though it HAD to be certified.
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5
    #18
    If anyone attempts this, good luck, my devices cage basically bent my car back into shape it fits so snug!
  19. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Scotland Posts: 1764 Because racecar
    #19
    Stop showing off
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 700 Mk6 Golf GTD Saxo VTS Project Rally Car
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rallynavigator View Post
    I have just spoken to the MSA in this matter this morning on making your own roll bar and your own design . As long as the basic requirements are met I.e min of 6 points , a single diagonal at the rear and a door bar on each door the deign is up to you. There is no certification required for the bar although it would be beneficial to have the metal used certified, or a certificate produced from the metal supplier
    and the correct size and spec of tubing isn't it? Main hoop has to be a certain size, and the rest a certain size (but not the same as the main hoop)