MOT FAIL FFS- Help Pls

23rd May 2011, 11:12

hi,

as the title states, my car has just failed its MOT.

fucking gutted i am aswel.

Theres a few i can try and sort myself but loads i cant

it failed on:

(both) registration plate lamp not illuminating the registration plate - i can fix that, i have blue bulbs in there, totally forgot to replace them

nearside head light ain too low - can fix that quiet easily

offside rear reflector more than 50% obscured - thats prob coz i have tinted my rear lights too much, can replace them

offside front lower suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded - he said the floor of the car requires welding $$

offside front break pipe excessively corroded

break load sensing valve linkage defective

exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits

this is pretty gutting.

wouldnt be the end of the world, but just spent the best part of £600 on repairs last month on the fucking thing.

bought a rear axle, new bilstiens rear shocks, new clutch and new tyres.

then the guy said i am talking £250 with all the welding done.

so that would be me paying £850 on it in 2 months. cant afford to do that.

think am gonna have to scrap it or something.

unless anyone can suggest any miracle fixes?

23rd May 2011, 11:17

miracles? nah, rust does not just fly away. You need welding done, suspension sorted, a new cat converter and a new brake sensor. And have it serviced for good measure. Unless you fancy driving around in a rust bucket with no brakes that does 20 mpg.

23rd May 2011, 11:23

the service isnt an issue, serviced it myself about 3 months ago, and i average about 45 mpgs at the moment.

it says lambda sensor reading high, so thats the cat then? not just a faulty lambda?

i have owned 2 saxo's both needed cats on MOT. this is the 3rd

What you reckon to fix it?

He said £250, that about right you say?

23rd May 2011, 11:25

a brand new cat is around £70, it takes only a few minutes to change it. Do it yourself if you can. It's only 4 bolts on the top, 2 on the bottom, one lambda sensor to move, one ring and a bit of exhaust paste. 15-20 minutes job

23rd May 2011, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtz07

1. offside front lower suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded - he said the floor of the car requires welding $$

2. offside front break pipe excessively corroded

3. break load sensing valve linkage defective

4. exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits

then the guy said i am talking £250 with all the welding done.

so that would be me paying £850 on it in 2 months. cant afford to do that.

think am gonna have to scrap it or something.

unless anyone can suggest any miracle fixes?

1. £250 is excessive for that, but obviously depends how severe it is. Id have a quote from a few other places. Think you will find you will get charged ALOT less elewhere.

2. £20 for a pipe

3. Bit of WD40 and hammer might sort it, if not then £10 for a replacment.

4. Second hand lambda off here, or a new Cat either way £30 max.

Ok so:

1. If you scrap it, you throw away £600 you spend in the last month?

2. you spend the £250 to repair it and have a mecanically sound car which will last for a while judging by what you have already replaced. Or you could sell it, buy another car with all the same problems?

Fix it.

23rd May 2011, 11:28

Core, a lot to do, however you can do most of that yourself, just hire a mig plant for the welding

23rd May 2011, 11:41

cheers for the pointers guys. i will brab a cat off ebay for £70ish, then take it to this guy i know for welding. see what he says.

fucked off i am. completely

feel like crying lol

23rd May 2011, 11:50

it happens sometimes mate. I spent about £800 last summer for new box/clutch and cat. Otherwise it's been over 3 years trouble free so can't really complain.

23rd May 2011, 11:55

Yer, if i get it fixed then i know its right atleast, and its an excuse to the misses to keep the car (she wants to get rid and get something more sensible)

but its all cash i havent got at the moment. i have been flush for a year, an not needed to spend anything on it, skint at the moment and need to rebuild the whole thing.

typical.

gonna do some digging about on ebay for some new gear. see what i can do.

23rd May 2011, 13:53

is nit still semi legal to drive it?

]he said i got 10 days to fix it, does that mean i am allowed to drive it?

wouldnt of thought so, but its pissing down an i got no coat!

23rd May 2011, 15:19

can it be re-tested at any time?

i mean, if i haven't got the cash to fix it right now, can i re-test next month?

23rd May 2011, 15:25

think it is 10 days they give you to correct the faults

23rd May 2011, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtz07

can it be re-tested at any time?

i mean, if i haven't got the cash to fix it right now, can i re-test next month?

it's a free re test within 10 days.

after that you have to pay for a completely new MOT

im not sure if you can drive it within them 10 day's either, best ringing an MOT station and asking.

23rd May 2011, 15:41

its not a free re-test with these guys.

bastards.

ah well. looks like am shelling out then dont it!

god damn why oh why did i ever ever buy a saxo.

never ever had anything but trouble with the 3 i have had.

23rd May 2011, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtz07

its not a free re-test with these guys.

bastards.

ah well. looks like am shelling out then dont it!

god damn why oh why did i ever ever buy a saxo.

never ever had anything but trouble with the 3 i have had.

it's a free re test!!! trust me im sure i have seen it on the DVLA site.

sounds like they are having your pants down! especially with the £250 re-weld

23rd May 2011, 15:48

Quote:

Your re-test will only be free if the vehicle is left with the original MOT testing station for repair and then a partial re-test is carried out within 10 working days of the original MOT test.

So if you bring your car in to your testing station for an MOT and it fails on item(s) that are not in the list above – in the blue box – and you take the vehicle away and either fix it yourself or get another garage to fix it you will need to bring it back for a partial re-test within 10 working days to get the partial re-test fee which is half the full test fee. To see a list of MOT charges - Click Here >>

If you bring it back to the original MOT testing station outside of 10 working days then the station will have to perform a complete MOT test and will charge the full MOT fee.

http://mottesting.org.uk/mot-retest-...tion-fail.html

OKAY i was wrong, but it's half price!

23rd May 2011, 17:14

yer i am not complaining then, they charge £45, and £12 for the re test!

i am gonna buy the cat on ebay, then get the others done, then take it somewhere for the welding

23rd May 2011, 17:20

Yes you can drive it in that time, how else do you get it to the places to get fixed!

23rd May 2011, 17:23

Get it sorted mate.

By what you say (ie fitted an axle), all the things other than welding you can do yourself, you just need the parts, which can all be sorted on here or ebay cheaply.

As for welding, ring around, get a few quotes. Mine ranged from "scrap it" to "your looking at £400" to "£70"

There is always hope

---> Failed MOT - excessive corrosion (+ 17 other things) - How much £ for welding? PASSED :-)

23rd May 2011, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Yes you can drive it in that time, how else do you get it to the places to get fixed!

Not legally you can't. (Other than a car trailer or getting it recovered)

23rd May 2011, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by outrage_uk

Not legally you can't. (Other than a car trailer or getting it recovered)

Every MOT ive had done, my parents in fact every single person I know have been able to drive legally untill the retest. Unless the law has changed in the past month?

23rd May 2011, 17:34

Your car needs an MOT to drive on the road.

If it doesnt have a valid test certificate at the time its been used (driven) - then it's not legal.

The only exception is too and from a testing station - going for a test and returning from it.

23rd May 2011, 17:37

You can drive it if you are driving to get it repaired and only for that too. Like I say how else do you get it repaired!

23rd May 2011, 17:42

By getting it recovered or on a trailer.

You can't drive without an MOT, its that black and white really.

Im obviously not saying don't do it... i do, and im sure everyone does. All I am saying is that when your car has failed an MOT, legally it can't be driven - so if you get stopped driving around a week later saying your buying parts or whatever - don't make yourself sound like an idiot saying its all legal with this 10 day thing because its not.

23rd May 2011, 17:48

How far are you from Macclesfield? I've found a guy who does MOT failure work for a stupidly low price. I've just had my arches welded, New rear shoes, Rear wheel cylinder,handbrake cable, Ball joint and new hoses done for £135...

If you're not too far and want the number drop me a PM.

23rd May 2011, 17:53

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How long do I have after failing an MOT before taking the second test?

There is no set time limit before a retest and it is at the discretion of the individual. Remember - a car that does not have a current MOT Certificate is not allowed to be used on the road except when going for repairs for a test, or to a prearranged test.

quoteeeee yo

23rd May 2011, 18:04

you can legally drive the car for 14days after the mot has expired just to add so outrage to an extent bud your wrong

23rd May 2011, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorz_vts

you can legally drive the car for 14days after the mot has expired just to add so outrage to an extent bud your wrong

might of stirred up a bit of a storm here...

sorry

the plan so far is, go get a cat from ebay, then do the rest of the minor shit, and then drive round a few garages to get some quotes on the welding

wont be legal as its not MOT'd, but i have no other way of getting it there.

last year when my MOT failed i drove it for 3 days before i could repair it. i thought it was legal to do that though.

dont know any other option, cant afford a flat backed truck onto that, and getting the welder to me could be an issue.

does "Exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd idle outside specified limits" mean CAT or Lambda?

weird one as i cant test that myself with out one of them weird little prongy things

23rd May 2011, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtz07

might of stirred up a bit of a storm here...

sorry

the plan so far is, go get a cat from ebay, then do the rest of the minor shit, and then drive round a few garages to get some quotes on the welding

wont be legal as its not MOT'd, but i have no other way of getting it there.

last year when my MOT failed i drove it for 3 days before i could repair it. i thought it was legal to do that though.

dont know any other option, cant afford a flat backed truck onto that, and getting the welder to me could be an issue.

What Mk is the car and what model is it? I have an undercar cat that I know for a fact works as I used it to pass my MOTs that you can have as I no longe rhave a saxo.

Like I say you can drive it to be repaired or have it tested, it says on the police FAQ site and many MOT sites aswell as VOSA replies to people on a few forums.

ANPR DVLA systems take 4 weeks to update, so the police said months ago (so ANPR wont flag you up), may have changed now with them bringing in this new enforcment, but that maybe back trackign things rather than looking at current valid MOTs and insurance etc.

DVLA also say theyre not interested in reports off the public on cars that have outof date MOT by 14 days, anything longer and they are concerned with repoirts off the public.

23rd May 2011, 18:46

its a MK1 VTR

nice mate would be up for that mate, so this cats all good?

what price we talking mate?

thanks x

23rd May 2011, 18:53

totally just remembered that my cat is welded to my down pipe after it split a few months back... gonna need a new one of them aswel

today gets better by the minute!