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1. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

   #1 28th May 2011, 11:40

   i lowered my car about 2 weeks ago ... on the rear i lowered it about 70 so it was sat jus by the tread on the tyer. bt nw its droped rite down so that no tyer showing n the arch is sat level wif the rim near enuf ... would this off happend cos my rear dampers are fuked or cos the torsion bar needs to setel.
   if it is my dampers ill get new 1st asap n if its the torstion that needs rasing ill do that CBA wif that tho lol
2. badasssaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 southend on sea,essex Posts: 4244

   #2 28th May 2011, 11:41

   please retype so that we can understand what your saying,
   
   
   btw......cool story bro
3. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

   #3 28th May 2011, 11:47

   basicly i lowered my car on the rear to about 70 mm n so it sat level with the top of my tyers nw its droped down so u cnt see any of the tyers
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 28th May 2011, 12:05

   When you lower any car it takes a while for the suspension to settle.Lowering it by 70mm is pretty low & now the suspension has settled your down even lower & probably at risk of being pulled by the police.Why did you go that low in the 1st place?
   
   Steve.
5. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

   #5 28th May 2011, 12:11

   only went that low cos my my fron springs are 70 on front but now it just looks like im goin fast every where lol so its nt the dampers its the tostion bar thats seteled lower ?
6. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #6 28th May 2011, 13:09

   Torsion bar mate,but check your rear shocks as well.
   
   Steve.
7. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #7 28th May 2011, 13:20

   why would he get pulled by police?
8. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

   #8 28th May 2011, 13:41

   well i put another set of standard shocks on the bk bt they seamed prity fuked as well cos win i pushed them down the jus stayed in :s lol
   and yer i did get pulled the other nite drivin home they asked me if i had some thing in my boot lol
9. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #9 28th May 2011, 13:46

   haha the police really do have nothing better to do. never done it with me and not just my tyre, but my spokes are in the arch
10. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #10 28th May 2011, 13:56

    yer bt i hate how fukin high the front off my car sits to the rear i want the fron about 80 to 90 so it looks a lil more balanced tbh jus looks like in goin fast every where lol
    wt aloys u runnin ?
11. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #11 28th May 2011, 13:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 yer bt i hate how fukin high the front off my car sits to the rear i want the fron about 80 to 90 so it looks a lil more balanced tbh jus looks like in goin fast every where lol wt aloys u runnin ?

    *on the front nt the rear
12. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #12 28th May 2011, 14:04

    i know what you mean. mine is lowered 60 front and 100 rear. looks like am pulling away all the time. but i like it. i have 15" alloys with 195x45 tyres. the best way i can think of lowering the front more is putting a heavier engine in haha
13. ptceltic Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 eastkilbride, glasgow Posts: 474 saxo VTR

    #13 28th May 2011, 14:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 i know what you mean. mine is lowered 60 front and 100 rear. looks like am pulling away all the time. but i like it. i have 15" alloys with 195x45 tyres. the best way i can think of lowering the front more is putting a heavier engine in haha

    have you got any picks of your car down 60mm 100mm ??
14. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #14 28th May 2011, 14:21

    yes i have a few. i will look for them now
15. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #15 28th May 2011, 14:35

    
    
    
    
    
    
    lol at the bottom pic. you wouldnt know they were the same colour
16. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #16 28th May 2011, 14:37

    ill get a few off mine l8er on bt im finkin of doin the euro look duno wt aloys i want bt nxt thing to get is a decent set of coilovers any1 knw a good type to get ?
17. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #17 28th May 2011, 14:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 lol at the bottom pic. you wouldnt know they were the same colour

    see yours dont look that bad mine looks way more extreame than that .... think it mite be because it has the vt kit on it
18. ptceltic Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 eastkilbride, glasgow Posts: 474 saxo VTR

    #18 28th May 2011, 14:41

    dam the back end is so low lol what hit is the vtr/vts sitting at ??
19. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #19 28th May 2011, 14:43

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater
20. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #20 28th May 2011, 14:44

    duno if u will be able to see that or nt
21. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #21 28th May 2011, 14:46

    the vts is 60/60
22. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #22 28th May 2011, 14:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

    i had a good wee chuckle at that
23. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #23 28th May 2011, 14:57

    could u see it ? that was mine b4 it steled its even lower nw lol
24. user_39284 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Pembrokeshire Posts: 3952 DubYaRex

    #24 28th May 2011, 15:33

    CUT DOWN THE TEXT TALK, it takes about 20 mins to read what the fuck your trying to say
    
    When you lower a car, your standard shocks arent made to work at the height, and it will cause you problems
    anything lower then 40mm you really need to upgrade the shocks
    
    i know that when you put new springs on, they take a while to settle, but torsion bars dont settle, they are (Supposed to be) solid bars, and stay at the height you set them
    
    (i could be wrong about that, but ive not heard anything about torsion bars "Settling")
    
    i would seriously considering forking out for a good suspension kit or coilovers seeing as your going down so low.
    
    
    DO IT PROPERLY OR NOT AT ALL
    
    Edit:
    just read that back, and it sounds like im having ago at you... im not.. just trying to help you out
25. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #25 28th May 2011, 16:16

    why dont you just chill the fuk out !
    my 1st question was is it my torsion or my dampers that i have problems with all i asked i like my car being low and agen iv asked in another thread what decent coil overs are there that i should buy !!!!!! bt no replied i want infotmaition on some stuff bt no1 on hear replies to simple questions !!!
    
    now i understand that i have a problem with my dampers n that why my car gradualy droped in the last few days now can you tell me coil over for saxos do you have to fit new wheel bearings to them as if it was a bran new strut or do u jus put you orginal ones on to the botem off them? how low can u get coilovers to go on the front n do u recomend any?
26. user_39284 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Pembrokeshire Posts: 3952 DubYaRex

    #26 28th May 2011, 16:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dano_vT Edit: just read that back, and it sounds like im having ago at you... im not.. just trying to help you out

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 why dont you just chill the fuk out !

    Please read, I was trying to help, no need to ger arsey about it
    
    And text talk wont get you very far on here, but thats your choice, find out the hard way
27. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #27 28th May 2011, 17:03

    thats all you had to say... rite so the reason the bk off my car has gone lower is because my damperes hav released there gas so all i need is uprated ones yer ?
    if soo what would be the best company to go for ?
28. user_39284 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Pembrokeshire Posts: 3952 DubYaRex

    #28 28th May 2011, 17:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 so all i need is uprated ones yer ? if soo what would be the best company to go for ?

    i hear very good things about apex kits..
29. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #29 28th May 2011, 18:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dano_vT i hear very good things about apex kits..

    well im usin apex springs so if i get there dampers for the rear aswel that should sort my problem out ??
30. user_39284 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Pembrokeshire Posts: 3952 DubYaRex

    #30 28th May 2011, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 well im usin apex springs so if i get there dampers for the rear aswel that should sort my problem out ??

    aslong as your torsion bar/rear axle hasnt already been buggered, yeh that should be fine
31. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #31 28th May 2011, 20:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 why would he get pulled by police?

    If your car is lowered to the extent that the wheels are fouling/scrubbing the wheel arches then yes they can after inspection do you.
    
    Steve.
32. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #32 29th May 2011, 10:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 If your car is lowered to the extent that the wheels are fouling/scrubbing the wheel arches then yes they can after inspection do you. Steve.

    i never knew that. learn something new every day. well mine aint haha. popped and ground
33. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #33 29th May 2011, 10:16

    ma mate going to town on ma car with the grinder haha
    
34. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #34 29th May 2011, 10:22

    well i rang the place that did my rear for me and they sed my torstion bar is fine so im just gona have get upreated dampers untill i can get my coil overs
35. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #35 29th May 2011, 10:30

    can i ask, is that tape on your wheel?
36. K17NEY Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner

    #36 29th May 2011, 10:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 When you lower any car it takes a while for the suspension to settle.Lowering it by 70mm is pretty low & now the suspension has settled your down even lower & probably at risk of being pulled by the police.Why did you go that low in the 1st place? Steve.

    What the hell are you talking about?
    
    1. 70 mm isnt that low, Its average for anyone who lowers the front 50-60mm
    2. Why the fuck would the police pull you? Ive driven slammed cars for the last 8 years and never been pulled for ride height.
    
    It sounds a little extreme for settling, Tha back never really settles much compared to the front. If its dropped this much then i'd guess the floor has split, Its a common fault on saxo's. Id get it checked by who ever lowered it for you.

    1 user thanked this post: kennym1987
37. Nathan-HxC Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Bath, South West Posts: 1081 16v VTR

    #37 29th May 2011, 10:45

    Torsion bars don't settle, not enough for you to notice anyway.
    Something's obviously gone wrong so if I were you I'd take it back and ask them to look at it.
38. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #38 29th May 2011, 11:41

    when you say split do u mean either side off the boot floor ? cos i found to small holes there that im going to have to crak out my welding skils again lol
39. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #39 29th May 2011, 12:32

    i think thats a really common place for saxo's to rust. most i have seen have holes or rust there. either side at the arch
40. tasher666 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 48 vtr mk1 (blue) vtr mk1 (silver)

    #40 29th May 2011, 12:48

    well im hopein wen i start taking the paint and stuff away that i dnt find a huge whole or surs patch
41. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #41 29th May 2011, 13:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitney What the hell are you talking about? 1. 70 mm isnt that low, Its average for anyone who lowers the front 50-60mm 2. Why the fuck would the police pull you? Ive driven slammed cars for the last 8 years and never been pulled for ride height. It sounds a little extreme for settling, Tha back never really settles much compared to the front. If its dropped this much then i'd guess the floor has split, Its a common fault on saxo's. Id get it checked by who ever lowered it for you.

    Then don`t listen & get pulled end up with a buggered rear beam as so many saxo`s on here end up with after lowering.
    
    Steve.
42. K17NEY Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner

    #42 31st May 2011, 09:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tasher666 when you say split do u mean either side off the boot floor ? cos i found to small holes there that im going to have to crak out my welding skils again lol

    No mate, where the floor behind the front seats meets the boot floor. Pull your rear bench out and pull the carpet forward to check.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Then don`t listen & get pulled end up with a buggered rear beam as so many saxo`s on here end up with after lowering. Steve.

    
    8 years.....
43. danpalmer90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Carlisle Posts: 115 02 plate saxo vtr

    #43 31st May 2011, 11:03

    take a coil from the front! get it decked. looks good!