Few Query's on a Vtr

1. p00ni Newbie Joined: May 2011 Somerset Posts: 12 mk2 Saxo Vtr

   #1 28th May 2011, 16:42

   Hi just got a saxo vtr phase 2
   120k on the clock fsh from Citroen very clean ALL STANDARD
   12 months mot taxed etc
   and i really like it however
   
   However few problems i was hoping some of you could shed light on
   
   1. Rattling noise from exhaust - not blowing at all. Looking underneath couldn't see anything touching, tightened up all clamp nuts
   Any common saxo exhaust rattling problem where to look?!!
   
   2. Wheel bearing i believe its the front one passenger side
   how easy to fix, do you have to take suspension out? cheapest place to buy the bits from?
   
   3. the engine temp always is on around 3/4 then will kick in go to half then raise to 3/4 and repeat that cycle is that normal? Btw i drive mpg not ragging it and the airbox is brand new installed correctley.
   
   If you could help that would be great ta
   dan
2. jayhull22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 telford Posts: 117 saxo vtr

   #2 28th May 2011, 17:04

   the exhaust mite be the exhaust mount, the rubber perished, hapend on my corsa and mine fell off, could be worth a look also it could be hiting the rear bumper causing a knocking when driving, the wheel bearing is easy to fix, shouldnt need to drop the suspension, just take the caplaper, disk off, then pull the driveshaft through then u should have access to the bearing, i had to replace the whole hub as the bearing was shaged wouldnt come out and the temp has always been like that with my last 2 saxos but i mite of had the same problem, they are known for overheating tho, if your worried about it just bleed the system and get all the air out, mite have some air in the pipes
3. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #3 28th May 2011, 17:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by p00ni Hi just got a saxo vtr phase 2 120k on the clock fsh from Citroen very clean ALL STANDARD 12 months mot taxed etc and i really like it however However few problems i was hoping some of you could shed light on 1. Rattling noise from exhaust - not blowing at all. Looking underneath couldn't see anything touching, tightened up all clamp nuts Any common saxo exhaust rattling problem where to look?!! 2. Wheel bearing i believe its the front one passenger side how easy to fix, do you have to take suspension out? cheapest place to buy the bits from? 3. the engine temp always is on around 3/4 then will kick in go to half then raise to 3/4 and repeat that cycle is that normal? Btw i drive mpg not ragging it and the airbox is brand new installed correctley. If you could help that would be great ta dan

   1. baffles may be gone in silencer/cat may be disintegrating, check mounts etc.
   
   2. wheel bearing 25 quid for parts, half hour to get the strut off and a tenner to your friendly local garage to swap the bearing
   
   3. bleed coolant system
4. p00ni Newbie Joined: May 2011 Somerset Posts: 12 mk2 Saxo Vtr

   #4 28th May 2011, 17:19

   thanks sound advice exhaust will be the annoying one tho havent looked at manifold yet though and saxo renound for that?
5. barwell1992 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)

   #5 28th May 2011, 17:31

   mine rattles ...anoying yes anoying enough to change it .... no
6. p00ni Newbie Joined: May 2011 Somerset Posts: 12 mk2 Saxo Vtr

   #6 28th May 2011, 18:19

   just had a look and there seems to be a considerable gap were the manifold/exhaust joins on the oval type flange
   
   should there be a gap here?
   Its tighten by 10mm spring bolts/nuts
   so im guessing there should be a bit of a gap?
   I checked evferything else held the exhaust up and down will running ~(cold) and isnt catching on anything must be something to do with the exhaust itself
7. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

   #7 28th May 2011, 18:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by p00ni 3. the engine temp always is on around 3/4 then will kick in go to half then raise to 3/4 and repeat that cycle is that normal? Btw i drive mpg not ragging it and the airbox is brand new installed correctley.

   Can you explain that a bt better mate?
   
   Mine when driving around town in jams etc the temp guage will rise just above half way under 3 quarters, the fan will kick in and bring it just under half, and slowly it will make its way back up to over half and the fan will kick in cooling it down. This mainly happens when sat idling, I've changed the coolant once and my heaters blow hot air and everything but I just assumed it was normal for these cars, my old car used to constantly sit below half once warmed up and never move, but I though the VTR was different, am I right?
8. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #8 28th May 2011, 22:00

   this probably isnt very helpfull but I don't think it is normal for the temp to keep rising then dropping my vtr sits at just above halfway on the gauge and doesnt often move unless its sad idling for a long time
9. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

   #9 28th May 2011, 22:11

   Ah shit, any idea how to solve this then? The fan doesn't come on much when driving, its just when sat idling or in a traffic jam it does it, my mates 106 does the same or similar?
10. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #10 28th May 2011, 22:20

    Right this may sound odd but my temperature gauge used to do this until I changed the coolant temperature sensor.Not the 1 for the gauge(blue 1)but the green 1 for the ecu.Before anyone says I got it wrong odd that it may seem changing the green sensor worked.
    
    Steve.
11. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

    #11 28th May 2011, 22:40

    Could you show me where these are? May pick a spare up from the scrappy tommorrow?
    
    Cheers
12. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #12 28th May 2011, 22:57

    Right on your thermostat housing you`ll see a green plug and a blue plug you take off the metal clip & use 19mm deep socket to undo the sensors from the housing.
    
    Steve.
13. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

    #13 28th May 2011, 23:00

    Ah so where the thermostat is at the back of the top hose? Will I need to drop the coolant to change em? And would an adjustavle spanner work I don't think I've got deep sockets that size
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 28th May 2011, 23:17

    yes mate its at the back of the top hose,you won`t get a spanner in there all you`ll do is round off the nut.With the coolant leave the engine till its cold take the 1st sensor off then quickly screw the replacement in repeat for the 2nd sensor.A deep 19mm socket from Halfords won`t cost you much or borrow 1 from a mate.
    
    Steve.
15. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

    #15 28th May 2011, 23:33

    Ah got ya mate, hopefully that will sort my problem.
    
    Thanks mate.
16. p00ni Newbie Joined: May 2011 Somerset Posts: 12 mk2 Saxo Vtr

    #16 29th May 2011, 09:17

    intresting cheers
17. RickVTR Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Leyland, Lancashire Posts: 265 2000 Saxo VTR

    #17 29th May 2011, 23:49

    my saxo rises in temp when ive been driving around town and then get stuck in a jam but it seems to cool rapidly when out on a bypass. I think small engines dont really get given the best cooling systems as they are meant for short journeys. as long as the fan is able to cool it down then i cant see it being a problem. If its going anywhere near 3/4 though then there may be a problem. Fan kicks in just over half
18. p00ni Newbie Joined: May 2011 Somerset Posts: 12 mk2 Saxo Vtr

    #18 30th May 2011, 01:38

    hum fan kicks in at 3/4