144ft/lb clutch slipping

1. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #1 2nd June 2011, 18:26

   Basically now I'm running my gripper and r888s i cant spin the wheels so my clutch just gives up and slips instead as im powering out of bends
   
   Can i do something like a paddle friction plate in my valeo pressure plate or is it a whole new clutch time
   
   
   Never looked at paddle clutches as everyone said i wouldnt need one but now i need one quick so im asking you lot
2. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

   #2 2nd June 2011, 19:59

   I run a standard cover, with an AP 4 paddle clutch with a sprung centre. It can withstand my constant thrashing so I would say its a pretty good setup.
3. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #3 2nd June 2011, 20:30

   So i can do that then
   
   Found the friction plate on spoox but 220 quid ouch lol
   ill shop about for one lol
4. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #4 2nd June 2011, 21:01

   yep alex, i reckon a standard pressure plate and uprated friction plate should do the trick.
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 2nd June 2011, 21:15

   This one??
   
   http://www.spoox.co.uk/catalog/produ...0b7e73859d9770
6. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #6 2nd June 2011, 21:17

   i am using the OMP group N one, seem good for me, but i am also using the OMP pressure plate too.
7. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #7 2nd June 2011, 21:22

   im sure a helix 4/6 paddle clutch would be cheaper than that.. get some pm's out to atspeed/gmc etc.
8. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #8 2nd June 2011, 21:23

   doubt it make any diff to you since it's already happened but I had 145f;b running through mine
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 3rd June 2011, 00:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dannygti im sure a helix 4/6 paddle clutch would be cheaper than that.. get some pm's out to atspeed/gmc etc.

   Helix 6 paddle is 190 quid
   
   Ill message a few companies tomorrow
10. DanGT Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Surrey Posts: 192 TVR cerbera, Saxo VTR

    #10 4th June 2011, 11:15

    I am pretty sure you will have issues but should get what you want in the end. YB racing are probably the cheapest for the clutch plates. You just need to know the code of one for a saxo.
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 4th June 2011, 12:29

    Come to us for OMP stuff. I would recommend an uprated clutch pressure plate if you are planning on doing a lot of hard acceleration from standstill. This is where the most strain on the system will be. Once moving theres less stress on the components.
12. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #12 4th June 2011, 18:52

    I have the full OMP system, seem to be doing me well, I know more after tomorrow see how it holds up.
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 8th June 2011, 11:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing Come to us for OMP stuff. I would recommend an uprated clutch pressure plate if you are planning on doing a lot of hard acceleration from standstill. This is where the most strain on the system will be. Once moving theres less stress on the components.

    Im no traffic light hero so should be ok on standard cover
    its moving its slipping
14. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #14 8th June 2011, 12:35

    What about an unsprung friction plate
    I know itll snatch on bite would it be too much daily i stop at 3 junctions on the way to work so traffic creeping ect im not fussy on
15. Citroen_saddo Newbie Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10

    #15 8th June 2011, 12:38

    You need a 4 paddle for 144lbs of torque, pathetic
16. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #16 8th June 2011, 12:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB What about an unsprung friction plate I know itll snatch on bite would it be too much daily i stop at 3 junctions on the way to work so traffic creeping ect im not fussy on

    see my facebook reply.
    
    no need to spec a race clutch for a road car. but even if i say a sprung 6 paddle clutch would be your best bet theres a good chance you will ignore what i say. so jus do what you want
17. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #17 8th June 2011, 12:48

    Main thing atm danny is cost but if saving 150 quid makes it undriveable then its not worth saving
    
    I dont know the ins and outs of clutches as far as i was told id be fine with a valeo and now cause of that ive no idea what im looking at
18. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #18 8th June 2011, 13:26

    this is all you really need alex..
    
    http://www.106parts.com/s2/page1.php...a3=8&area4=314
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 8th June 2011, 13:38

    So just the friction plate yea?
20. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #20 8th June 2011, 14:50

    I use both that clutch plate with springs and cover too, works well for me.
21. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #21 8th June 2011, 16:28

    Ill try it then
22. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #22 8th June 2011, 16:59

    buy OMP through us I will match their price. I'm ordering a crapload for a customer in Dubai this week so can add more to the order...
    call me
    
    Kev
23. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #23 8th June 2011, 22:51

    can you beat there price haha??
    
    and a number is required to call you iirc theres not one on the site
24. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #24 8th June 2011, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB What about an unsprung friction plate I know itll snatch on bite would it be too much daily i stop at 3 junctions on the way to work so traffic creeping ect im not fussy on

    im running a helix 4 paddle with unsprung plate on a dailly, stopping regular at lights on hills etc, took me a week or two and can drive it just the same as i could a stock clutch, is bitch snatchy if your aggressive though
25. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #25 9th June 2011, 07:00

    Think ill try the omp one fella danny seems pretty confident itll work
    but thanks for that one if the omp is no good then ill get an unsprung paddle there half the price of sprung
26. user_20551 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 107

    #26 9th June 2011, 08:08

    What sort of power/torque can those 4 paddle clutches handle?
27. Sandy309 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Cornwall Posts: 349 106 XSi

    #27 9th June 2011, 08:15

    Cerametallic paddle plate will take the heat of hard use much better (organic material fades away) and with good condition OE cover is fine for any N/A TU, we've used the same 200mm plate with 170lbft and supersoft slicks on XU engines with no bother. Uprated covers often lead to high cable wear and MA clutch lever failures we've found and snappier/less pleasant to use.

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28. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #28 9th June 2011, 08:56

    Yer I had to straighten my arm, A's it just used to bend round on me.
    
    Not too bad though, once you get use to it.
29. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #29 9th June 2011, 09:01

    Yea guys this is something else as danny snapped his clutch release bearing forks off a few years back
    Definatly dont want to be doing that
    
    Im getting confused as to which friction plate i need now as sandy says paddle danny the omp isnt andys using an omp of some form least i know unsprung is a bit shitty on a rlad car
30. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #30 9th June 2011, 09:06

    The OMP one is 4 paddle plate, I have the one with springs and also use the omp cover too.
31. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #31 9th June 2011, 09:18

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...151898&page=26
    
    Go down that page that the omp one from 106parts with springs.
32. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #32 9th June 2011, 09:52

    Weredyou get it from?
33. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #33 9th June 2011, 10:09

    106parts kamracing can get the same on and yb racing aswell.
    
    It the omp sprung plate.
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 9th June 2011, 10:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB can you beat there price haha?? and a number is required to call you iirc theres not one on the site

    The number is at the top of every page )1296 761765
35. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #35 9th June 2011, 10:34

    My bad lol