Still not solved!:- Audio cuts out when turning.

12th June 2011, 11:11

Good day all.

I noticed, that when ever I turn right relatively sharply the song thats playing starts going all 'fuzzy' making the whitenoise sound. Does anyone know the problem to this?

Many Thanks.

Edit: I checked all my wires and I saw how unsafe they were, bare wires sticking out, and I thought this was the cause of my problem, maybe the wires were shorting my stereo or something when turning. So I resoldered all the wires together (they were twisted together and then electrical taped) and I used heat shrink wraps to seal them... This has done nothing! I am running out of ideas. Suggestions PLEAASSEEE

ANOTHER EDIT!! My Mate tried the head unit in his car and it worked excellent!! No problems at all, just how it should be. So it's an issue with my car!! But I don't know what the issue is!! It's not doing it when just turning right anymore, just does it when it feels like and when I turn right its even worse!! Someone help before I shoot myself.

12th June 2011, 11:12

Is this the CD player part or Radio?

12th June 2011, 11:14

Good question. I havn't actually tried my radio yet. Just been playing CD's. I'll find out later and let you know!

12th June 2011, 11:16

If its just CDs, you may need to buy a new HU. Or try a different one if its just one. Have you done anything to your saxo to stop the roll? Is it the standard HU?

12th June 2011, 12:01

Its a brand new kenwood Head Unit cost me £120 :/ I'm really hoping this isn't to do with that and something to do with dodgy connections or something..

12th June 2011, 12:14

Try pushing in the connections at the back again, If not possibly your speakers.

13th June 2011, 16:17

Could possibly be a bad earth connection somewhere, when you turn sharply it knocks the earth cable somewhere along the line. I would start at this point then work back from there.

If it's a brand new H/U it's unlikely to be that which is at fault, although it could be worth getting checked out under its standard warranty.

13th June 2011, 20:42

It not only does it with CD's but with the radio on also, when ever I turn right it goes fuzzy, first things first im going to check all the wiring and make sure everythings connected correctly, and see where we go from there.

13th June 2011, 20:48

try another cd player if ya got one, might be a faulty one

14th June 2011, 23:05

I've tried another CD player and it works unfortunately, kinda hoping it was an issue with the car... so now i'm royally buggered beause I have no idea where the receipt is. The player comes with some wires could these be faulty in some way?? My girlfriend sat with me and she held the cd player in her lap when I went for a "test drive" and it still kept fuzzing when turning right... God knows how. If anyone can shed some light it would really help.

14th June 2011, 23:25

Check where your going before you set off and play beyonce to the left to the left ........ Just don't turn right lol

14th June 2011, 23:29

Lol very good. Sod playing that crap, if I had the choice i'd just keep doing clockwise doughnuts all day.

14th June 2011, 23:33

Lol sorry couldn't help any more mate only thing I can say is try another head unit off a friend or spare if sorts it well there your answer ? If not then try something else

15th June 2011, 17:07

I'm gonna try my head unit in my mates car and see if the same issue persists. That should deffinately rule out an issue with my car :/

15th June 2011, 18:11

mate its an earth.. guarenteed. Mine did it with shopping in the back cause id forgot to take an earth off. It goes cracky doesnt it ? Check all earths fella.

15th June 2011, 21:14

So what do I do with this 'earth'

Apologies but I know NOTHING about electrics. Earth is the black one?

16th June 2011, 12:05

There is oviosuly no way of fixing such a bad problem other than turning left constatnly.

Sounds like a bad earth connection mate.

16th June 2011, 23:12

So what is this bad earth connection? how do I go about fixing it? :/

18th June 2011, 23:36

Bump...

20th June 2011, 22:03

Bump!

21st June 2011, 20:12

dont turn then

21st June 2011, 23:57

Darn you, I got excited when I saw a reply. Does any one actually know the cause of this?

23rd June 2011, 19:56

BUMP!!

24th June 2011, 23:21

To the friggin top.

24th June 2011, 23:39

Just been reading your thread, did you try your HU in another car?, if you trace back black wire from HU once you get to connector the wire colour changes(think its green/yellow from memory), keep following it back until it is firmly attached to a piece of bodywork, usually in the form of an eyelet bolted to a stud in body, check this is in good condition, no damage to wire and is firmly attached, also check for any corrosion, to get a good earth you need good contact to bare metal, ie- no paint in the way. Have a look at that and see what its like

24th June 2011, 23:52

Thanks pal, will try my HU in my mates car and tell you the results.

24th June 2011, 23:54

Just as a little extra the earth point may well be in passenger footwell behind carpet roughly where bottom of dashboard is, been looking through wiring diagrams that i have and can't find anything conclusive but i will check mine in the morning see if i can help any further

25th June 2011, 00:15

Thanks mate, your being very helpful! I have recently changed my carpet maybe this could have affected it in someway?

25th June 2011, 00:29

Its possible, wouldn't take a lot to do it, hopefully some of the waffling on will be of use to you, its one of those things really thats easier to explain when your stood next to someone rather than trying to write it down, anyway good luck with it and if your still at a loss with it let me know and i'll see if i can help any further

26th June 2011, 21:20

Tried my head unit in my mates car and it worked beautifully! Really fudging jealous, so now I don't know what to do!!!

26th June 2011, 21:47

Have you checked the earth wiring yet?

26th June 2011, 21:52

Ah I forgot about that. Will check that (Y)

13th July 2011, 20:26

Insert Essay Here:-

Had a good root under my passenger foot well, and I seriously can't see anything touching or any bare wires or anything. I MUST be missing something. I even took the stereo out and shook it to see if I could replicate the 'fuzzines' and narrow down the culprit!! Stupid I know!! But it worked fine, I then popped it back in, went for a test drive, first right hand bend and my audio goes fuzzy again. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUDGE!?!

I then considered the lateral G into my equation and essentially 'pulled' most of my audio wires to the left which is where they would tend to lean if I was turning sharply right, thanks to centrifugal force and I still couldn't find a culprit, only seems to happen when i'm moving...

Has anyone ever had this problem before or have any suggestions!! I'm willing to try anything now, i'm considering cutting out another loom from another saxo and soldering it in place of mine, but that's my last resort..

Anymore suggestions?

/Essay

14th July 2011, 09:03

I dunno where you are with this matey cos you say youve tried the HU in your mates and it worked but then you tried another unit in yours and that worked? Soo.. ?

Anyway this is what id do ...

1 : get a replacement headunit just to be sure. (It will be under Kenwood warranty if you bought it new from a shop - even if youve lost your receipt - if you paid on card and can prove you bought it from them (a bank statement or summut) they should exchange it)

2 : when that doesnt work.. buy and fit an inline noise suppressor : >> Ebay >>

3 : when that doesnt work.. earth the head unit direct to the battery using a decent gauge wire.

4 : when that doesnt work.. (you will need a passenger to help here - not female) get a >> multi meter >> (if you dont have one) , set to resistance then put the black wire to an earth and the red wire to each speaker wire in turn (front right + then - , front left + then - , rear right + then - , rear left + then -). Thats 8 wires on the ISO connector (stereo connector) that needs to be checked in turn. On each one - go and have a spin round a roundabout while the passenger checks the resistance on the multimeter. When it changes from ∞ (infinity) to an Ω ohms reading - you will know which wire is causing the problem - so replace it or find the short in the circuit and tape it up.

5 : if that doesnt work id probably swear a few times, get in a bad mood and leave it

14th July 2011, 18:18

Sorry to hear your still having problems mate, having read your thread again just now have you checked the connections on speakers, there's no reason why they would only play up on one HU really but its worth checking after what you said about the stereo loom, it could be loose wiring to a speaker.

Shame you aren't closer otherwise i'd have offered to come and have a look

15th July 2011, 14:22

Thanks ADS85 and Outrage_uk for your help and thanks for the links!! I will invest in these items and hopefully make some sense of what you both said! Wiring is one of my weakest points and this is why i'm probably having problems. How about if I take a photo of my head unit and the wires connecting to it, and you can compare it to yours? And see if mines different at all. I'm worried that my wires have been mismatched by a previous owner and it isn't suitable with my HU, its the only reason I can think of why one HU works and the other doesn't!!

16th July 2011, 16:08

mine also does this haha, only with sharp turns if you sort it let me know

16th July 2011, 16:21

Trace the earth wire back then see if you can find somewhere else to use as an earth point for it.

Steve.

17th July 2011, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tally2425

mine also does this haha, only with sharp turns if you sort it let me know

Will do pal, I've just cut out a standard loom from another saxo and going to solder it into place of my current one. if this works i'll let you know

18th July 2011, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukus-vtr

Insert Essay Here:-

Had a good root under my passenger foot well, and I seriously can't see anything touching or any bare wires or anything. I MUST be missing something. I even took the stereo out and shook it to see if I could replicate the 'fuzzines' and narrow down the culprit!! Stupid I know!! But it worked fine, I then popped it back in, went for a test drive, first right hand bend and my audio goes fuzzy again. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUDGE!?!

I then considered the lateral G into my equation and essentially 'pulled' most of my audio wires to the left which is where they would tend to lean if I was turning sharply right, thanks to centrifugal force and I still couldn't find a culprit, only seems to happen when i'm moving...

Has anyone ever had this problem before or have any suggestions!! I'm willing to try anything now, i'm considering cutting out another loom from another saxo and soldering it in place of mine, but that's my last resort..

Anymore suggestions?

/Essay

I haven't looked under my carpet in a while but I do seem to remember the wire that ads is talking about. Unless I'm imagining the wire

. It could be that it has actually come off the earth point and is now waving around behind the dash, and when you turn right causes it too move?

But would it work without having an earth point? Unless its touching the metal behind the dash or something? Just guessing here really, don't have much of a clue about electrics.

I'll check tomorrow anyway as my carpet is loose and get a picture for you so you can compare.

18th July 2011, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyne

I haven't looked under my carpet in a while but I do seem to remember the wire that ads is talking about. Unless I'm imagining the wire

. It could be that it has actually come off the earth point and is now waving around behind the dash, and when you turn right causes it too move?

But would it work without having an earth point? Unless its touching the metal behind the dash or something? Just guessing here really, don't have much of a clue about electrics.

I'll check tomorrow anyway as my carpet is loose and get a picture for you so you can compare.

If the earth wire has broken completely then the radio won't work, but if its working loose on the earthing point that could cause the disturbance/interference that's being problematic, 99% certain its going to be either loose/broken/bare wiring somewhere its just finding it

18th July 2011, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyne

I haven't looked under my carpet in a while but I do seem to remember the wire that ads is talking about. Unless I'm imagining the wire

. It could be that it has actually come off the earth point and is now waving around behind the dash, and when you turn right causes it too move?

But would it work without having an earth point? Unless its touching the metal behind the dash or something? Just guessing here really, don't have much of a clue about electrics.

I'll check tomorrow anyway as my carpet is loose and get a picture for you so you can compare.

No it`s essential that all electrical connections have an earthing point.

Steve.

18th July 2011, 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukus-vtr

Edit: I checked all my wires and I saw how unsafe they were, bare wires sticking out, and I thought this was the cause of my problem, maybe the wires were shorting my stereo or something when turning. So I resoldered all the wires together (they were twisted together and then electrical taped) and I used heat shrink wraps to seal them... This has done nothing! I am running out of ideas. Suggestions PLEAASSEEE

Where were the wires that had to be sorted?, were they on HU wiring that can be disconnected to change HU or were they on original Citroen wiring loom?

Ads

18th July 2011, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ads85

Where were the wires that had to be sorted?, were they on HU wiring that can be disconnected to change HU or were they on original Citroen wiring loom?

Ads

No the head unit wiring is perfect tried it in my mates car. Its the 'standard' loom that came with the car that seems dodgy. I use the word standard loosely because I think it's been tampered with! This is the one I soldered together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyne

I haven't looked under my carpet in a while but I do seem to remember the wire that ads is talking about. Unless I'm imagining the wire

. It could be that it has actually come off the earth point and is now waving around behind the dash, and when you turn right causes it too move?

But would it work without having an earth point? Unless its touching the metal behind the dash or something? Just guessing here really, don't have much of a clue about electrics.

I'll check tomorrow anyway as my carpet is loose and get a picture for you so you can compare.

If you upload a photo that'd be cool!! Also take aphoto of your stereo loom so I can compare!

19th July 2011, 08:34

Try following the loom back through the dash, it goes off under and behind the glovebox, see if it has been tampered with elsewhere. I take it you've got standard connector blocks still, are these in good condition?

20th July 2011, 22:35

WELL THEN! A little Update. This problem should be turned into a progress thread!!

I got a spare loom and block connectors from another Saxo in the scrappy. I took off the dodgy 'modified' loom, and replaced it with a nice standard one, its not soldered in yet, i'm just using some block connectors so now my speaker wires are purely green and red, whereas before they were just multicoloured. So now I have...

-My Head Unit
-The Head Unit's loom.
-Which then connects to the Green and red speaker wires and all the power ones etc. Since I bought these from scrappy they are temporarily block connected to the wiring in the car.

So now, theoretically the wiring is now the "Standard" set up.... AND I STILL CAN'T GET IT TO WORK!! The crackling seems to happen less than it did, but its still there. So now i'm thoroughly stumped!!

To re cap.

I tried my HU in my mates car's! and it worked fine in both cars!!
I tried my mates two head units in my car and they both worked fine too!! (But they were older HU's, does that make any diff? As my kenwood is pretty much brand new)

So for some misterious reason, my head unit doesn't work in my car.. the only combination I want, and can't get... Sod's Law.

21st July 2011, 21:34

Bump..

21st July 2011, 22:03

i honestly dont think its an earth issue, altho it cud be, what i would do is disconnect each speaker one at a time and go for a drive, if the problem doesnt occur then u know its a speaker issue, altho you have checked wiring it does sound like this, ive worked with car audio quite a bit but i am no guru! your problem sounds very similar to a problem a customer had in his leon, turns out water had been leaking onto the voice coils in the speaker causing it to short out and the head unit to make a rather strange buzzing noise!

thats my bit lol and i hope this helps and that u get your priblem sorted asap! GOODLUCK

22nd July 2011, 10:15

Cheers pal, I'm going to strip it out over the weekend and have a look. I'll disconnect each speaker just before I do this and see if this does anything before I tear apart my car!! My only flaw I can find with your theory is that surely it would short out regardless of whatever head unit is used. Because it only shorts out with the head unit I own and none of the others I have tried. Correct me if i'm wrong. Which I hope I am...

Thanks for your input!

22nd July 2011, 23:31

Going to spend hours on this on the weekend... Wish me luck.

25th July 2011, 16:30

did you find out the problem.....? i hope you did