Guess the weight....

1. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #1 27th June 2011, 16:49

   So me, alex and my brother have just been to weigh our cars at mallory...
   
   
   
   Car 1: mark1 mango Saxo westcoast, 16v engine, stripped completely, 20kg cage, carbon roof & boot, 25litres of fuel (roughly)
   
   
   
   
   
   Car 2: mark2 Banana 106gti, 16v engine, full interior (bucket recliner front seats), soundeadening removed & rear seat belts removed, 25litres of fuel (roughly)
   
   
   
   
   
   Car 3: mark1 blue 106, 8v 1.4 iron block engine, rear completely stripped & carbon front seats, 20litres of fuel (roughly)
   
   
   
   
   
   How much do you think they weigh?
   
   Car:
   
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2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 27th June 2011, 17:00

   1. 870
   2. no Idea 970?
   3. 820ish
3. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #3 27th June 2011, 17:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax 1. 870 2. no Idea 970? 3. 820ish

   Well 16v standard (Alex's is 960kg's) mine standard with a 16v is about 940kg ish and sams (106xsi) standard is 860kg's....
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 27th June 2011, 19:51

   I know
   
   Proper unimpressed i need to find more to chuck out
5. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #5 27th June 2011, 20:02

   i reckon sams is under 800kgs
   
   i know alex's
   
   and i have no idea what yours is
6. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #6 27th June 2011, 20:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dannygti i reckon sams is under 800kgs i know alex's and i have no idea what yours is

   Take a guess Danny
7. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #7 27th June 2011, 20:49

   dont know mate tbh.. 800kg? just a wild guess
8. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

   #8 27th June 2011, 20:51

   1. 875kg
   2. 950kg
   3. 800kg
9. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #9 27th June 2011, 21:00

   Oo I know very good weights IMO.
10. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #10 27th June 2011, 21:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti dont know mate tbh.. 800kg? just a wild guess

    Well yours was 800kg with nothing in including lightened bumpers. Mine has cage but then also has carbon fibre...
11. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #11 27th June 2011, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by titchster 1. 875kg 2. 950kg 3. 800kg

    Close with 3, miles out on 1 and 2
12. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #12 27th June 2011, 21:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo Well yours was 800kg with nothing in including lightened bumpers. Mine has cage but then also has carbon fibre...

    mine was 790kgs with a little fuel in..
    
    so about the same??
13. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #13 27th June 2011, 21:35

    Mine had half a tank in it...
14. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #14 27th June 2011, 21:38

    id say mine is a fair bit heavier now.. probably 30kgs heavier. and the cage will add around the same again.
    
    are you going to tell me now or what lol?
15. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #15 27th June 2011, 21:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti id say mine is a fair bit heavier now.. probably 30kgs heavier. and the cage will add around the same again. are you going to tell me now or what lol?

    Lol, yeah,
    
    Car1(mine): 821kg (saving 140kgs ish)
    Car2(alexb): 884kg (saving 80kgs ish)
    Car3(Sams xsi): 812kg (saving 50kgs ish)
    
    I'm really happy with that tbh considering my cage has added at least 20kg's so in theory I've saved over 160kgs!
    
    I thought sams would be slightly less tbh, and alex's is a decent saving considering its not had that much lightening done so far...
16. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #16 27th June 2011, 21:53

    thats a GREAT weight mate, got to be happy with that.. i know i would.
    its a seriously light car.
    
    i thought sams would be a tad lighter but still fucking light lol.
    good stuff.
17. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #17 27th June 2011, 21:59

    Yeah i agree mate, im really happy with that
    
    Once i get my carbon bonnet and will be down to my target weight of 800kg's or there abouts
18. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #18 27th June 2011, 22:09

    true, you could easily lose more weight without compramise though mate. well have a chat about it next mash up
19. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #19 27th June 2011, 22:22

    I'm tempted to say fuck all for all three.

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20. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #20 27th June 2011, 22:28

    Bloody heavy cars those!
21. unreal106 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Dudley Posts: 1634 106 GTI

    #21 27th June 2011, 22:39

    lol dave-
    
    very nice weights everyone suprised how light alex's is!
    
    sam come on your ardly trying but lets face it that is one light car!
22. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #22 27th June 2011, 22:46

    Ok Danny sounds good mate, when are you next back? staying NA so need to loose as much as possible without losing my creature comforts
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by unreal106 lol dave- very nice weights everyone suprised how light alex's is! sam come on your ardly trying but lets face it that is one light car!

    I thought sams would be sub 800kg but then he hasn't done that much weight saving with the xsi tbh, it still has all the soundeadening in at the moment lol!
    
    Alright Dave alright, I'd love an s1 but as I said to steve the other day they didn't do them in mango lol
23. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #23 27th June 2011, 23:29

    I need to sort my fibreglass bonnet (single sheet 4 aerocatches and a pin in the badge to stop it flapping) and rear 3 polycarbs out theres a few other bits too but im not 100% on doing them
    
    There sat in the garage ready haha
    
    was impressed at joshs and sams i didnt realise still had a fair bit under the carpet so its not bad tbh will be under 800 with very little effort
    
    Pretty good to see
    
    Love that mines happily over 200hp/ton with full interior as that was my initial aim when i started the motor build tbh
24. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #24 27th June 2011, 23:32

    211bhp per ton so way over 200per ton with full interior is just nuts alex tbh!
25. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #25 27th June 2011, 23:42

    That's pretty good weight saving guys
    
    Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly
    
    Did it cost much/anything?
26. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #26 27th June 2011, 23:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RossDagley That's pretty good weight saving guys Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly Did it cost much/anything?

    Nah all free as my dad is friends with the manager at mallory park
    
    This ones accurate to the nearest 0.5kg so is really good
27. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #27 28th June 2011, 00:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo Nah all free as my dad is friends with the manager at mallory park This ones accurate to the nearest 0.5kg so is really good

    My new best friend - Jp
28. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #28 28th June 2011, 00:56

    800kg = what BHP per tonne for you JP?
    
    
    EDIT - I didn't read the thread...Never mind!
29. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #29 28th June 2011, 02:13

    Holy shit, that light!
    
    
    Although, that means my 106 must have been pretty bloody light then. I think the mango's probably stripped a bit more, but has a heavier cage than I was running. Fuck, that' upsetting...
30. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #30 28th June 2011, 08:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RossDagley My new best friend - Jp

    Haha, when I next up there I'll let you know, prob be next year sometime though!
    
    Jay - Currently it's 200 per ton using 165bhp as a power figure, with 800kg it would be around 210per ton roughly.
    
    Titch - what spec was your 106?
31. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #31 28th June 2011, 09:22

    Tithes was a 1.1 with a 16v stripped with a half cage and buckets
32. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #32 28th June 2011, 10:12

    Thats a pretty good weight with interior etc alex, id be chuffed with that!
    
    Very light also Josh. I agree though, im surprised Sams aint a little bit lighter. I guessed 820kgs for his as thats what my old 1.4 weighed at with them two Corbeau Recliners I got off you guys years ago. + I didnt go to town with insulation behind the dash etc
33. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #33 28th June 2011, 10:17

    I am chuffed but i know theres a lot more come off potential sub 875 with my new bits
    
    Id love sub 900 full interior and cage would be nice haha
34. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #34 28th June 2011, 11:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RossDagley That's pretty good weight saving guys Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly Did it cost much/anything?

    if that was when it was turbo'd then theres no way im believing that! you have BE box, cage, all turbo gear etc and only 30kgs heavier than my car was with throttle bodies...colin says his car is 900kgs.. how is your 80kgs lighter? i wanna know so i can do it, should get mine down to below 700kgs
    
    
    
    josh, im back a week on wednesday mate. when ive got my clutch sorted and the car mapped ill take a ride up to yours
35. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #35 28th June 2011, 12:03

    To get a car below 700kg you have to go pretty drastic. I'm cutting and chopping lots on my 205 to get that low.
36. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #36 28th June 2011, 18:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo Titch - what spec was your 106?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB Tithes was a 1.1 with a 16v stripped with a half cage and buckets

    Yeah, similar to what Alex said, but it wasn't a 1.1 to start with. Pretty much a base spec shell with sports suspension/the brace bars that go from the bulkhead to the wishbone kidney mountings etc. Handbook said ~895kg to start with.
37. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #37 28th June 2011, 20:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing To get a car below 700kg you have to go pretty drastic. I'm cutting and chopping lots on my 205 to get that low.

    i was being sarcastic kam
38. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #38 28th June 2011, 21:52

    why? I've got an aim to get mine nearer 600kg. Not sure its really possible but I'll have a good crack!
39. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #39 28th June 2011, 21:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing why? I've got an aim to get mine nearer 600kg. Not sure its really possible but I'll have a good crack!

    cause ive now got a big heavy turbo/intercooler/exhaust to lug around lol.. im sure an extra 150hp will make up for it though
40. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #40 29th June 2011, 08:12

    This makes me want to start getting rid of more weight from the saxo, Id like to know what it weights atm.
41. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #41 29th June 2011, 14:45

    why you wieghing them with a spare wheel in?
42. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #42 29th June 2011, 14:56

    Probably because that's generally how they're driven? Gives a good idea of the weight of the car as it's used, opposed to the weight if it had various parts removed.
43. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #43 29th June 2011, 15:48

    John - I removed my spare wheel as when on track days I normally remove it anyway.