best brakes and pads?

1st July 2006, 17:33

i want to upgrade my front disks and pads and have been told black diamond are good

but i dont fancy spending £100+ on brakes
anyone know some very good brakes that wont brake the bank?

cheers

1st July 2006, 17:55

no you wont get better brakes without spending more than £100.

Standard size discs and pads wont make much of an improvement, if you want to improve braking the first step is to increase the disc area with larger discs.

If you buy black diamond etc... in standard size they might feel better if the standard brakes are fubar but there wont be an incredible improvement

1st July 2006, 19:05

scotts right mate you wont get decent brakes for less than £100,if yours dont feel that great and your on a bit of a budget maybe look at just uprating the pads front and back.black diamond are good,had the combi discs and predator pads on my saxo.

1st July 2006, 20:13

as Scott said you need at least an increase in disc diameter to feel a difference in the pedal. i would just buy brand new standards then save up for an upgrade such as 206 gti or 306 gti-6 set up.

1st July 2006, 21:52

hmm, if i buy the black diamond combi's will they fit my car, as there is a 3 pot/hole and a 4

dunno anything about brakes and i might invest in these disks and get the pads of egay is any go cheap..

im on normal vtr rims

1st July 2006, 22:01

no point wasting money on black diamonds when brand new standards do the same job

1st July 2006, 22:55

caliper spaces 40 quid, 283mm discs 75 quid job done

2nd July 2006, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

caliper spaces 40 quid, 283mm discs 75 quid job done

Where from if you dont mind me asking? Need some myself!

You def need bigger discs tho if you want better stopping power!

2nd July 2006, 11:29

Just for reference...

Ive just bought a set of standard discs and pads for Suies 106GTi, which set me back the measily amount of £38.83 - bargain.

2nd July 2006, 12:26

new disc's and pads on mine where about £38 too on my 1.0

2nd July 2006, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo

Just for reference...

Ive just bought a set of standard discs and pads for Suies 106GTi, which set me back the measily amount of £38.83 - bargain.

pair of vented GTi discs = £32.95
set of brake pads = £17.95

Less my discount = £38.83

2nd July 2006, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

caliper spaces 40 quid, 283mm discs 75 quid job done

more info please

2nd July 2006, 17:29

i got mine from spoox components, they have a website. spacers used to extend your original calipers. then 283mm plain discs. there 75pound, i opted for grooved which were 125. so cheap effective mod.

2nd July 2006, 17:46

ill need better stopping power than standard as i drive at high speeds on certain roads near me and sometimes you need to stop really quick

will the black diamond 4pot combi fit my 2000 furio?

cheers

2nd July 2006, 18:21

Just wondered how much it would cost me to have new discs and pads all round on my mk2 vtr? cuz i think their abit on the low side and my discs are slightly scored. cheers

2nd July 2006, 19:42

use the internet and dont thread hijack

2nd July 2006, 20:31

sorry, didn't mean to upset you! i should have set up a new post. get over it.

2nd July 2006, 21:03

306 xsi disks and calipers from a scrappy, cost 60 max by me, 266 mm setup then for 60 squids

3rd July 2006, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

i got mine from spoox components, they have a website. spacers used to extend your original calipers. then 283mm plain discs. there 75pound, i opted for grooved which were 125. so cheap effective mod.

You have any pics? surly you would need a larger calipers as the diametre of the disk is more

3rd July 2006, 22:27

sorry no pics. the whole of the disc doesnt get used but because the clamping of the disc is done further away the resulting braking is better. if you get me

3rd July 2006, 23:50

ash, brackets are used to space the caliper further out from the strut, then as bullit says above

4th July 2006, 09:54

so it improves braking? i carnt see how as surly it can only be as good as standard as the only thing thats different is the size of the disk, some one explaine lol :clap:

4th July 2006, 10:19

size of disc is one of the most important factors

by increasing the size of the disc your increasing the size of area that can be clamped, even though the pads you are using will be the same size they will have a larger area to clamp, also the larger disc works as a larger lever to slow and heat disappation will be better

4th July 2006, 10:30

so its because the circumference of the disk is greater so there is more disk in contact with the pad per rotation of the wheel?

4th July 2006, 10:49

exactamudo.

4th July 2006, 11:01

koolio! Bit cleaver that from me lol

4th July 2006, 11:51

Its not the fact that the area in contact with the pad is larger (as its not if you use standard calipers), but if the caliper is positioned further out from the centre of the disc (as the disc diameter is larger) then the torque applied will be greater when braking, leading to more clamping force = improved braking.

Torque = force x distance... so if the distance is greater, the torque will be too.

Ahh, the visions of my A-level physics teacher. He was a right weirdo. Met him in the pub a few years ago... and yep, he was still a grade A

4th July 2006, 12:07

Now you have lost me simo lol

Im on about using standard calipers but with spacers and larger disk's

4th July 2006, 13:16

4th July 2006, 18:25

the bigger the disc,theyre further from the centre of the disc so they cause the disc to stop spinning quicker

4th July 2006, 20:59

while were talking technical. lol. ash if you hold a dusbin lid with the handle and get someone to spin it, it is hard to stop. if you hold the edges of the dustbin lid and get someone to spin it its easy to stop. wider your hands easier. had to get that in lol

4th July 2006, 21:04

...lol