shaking like mad!

1. bobbyd Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Preston Posts: 402 Vtr mk2.

   #1 15th July 2011, 16:05

   put all the new suspension i got on for my vtr, so decided to get it tracked and the wheels balanced as the steering wheel was abit shakey. had it done yesterday and it came back worse. apparently the the balancing was a tiny bit out and the tracking was bang on. But when you hit 55 it shakes lie a shitting dog. nothins loose etc, any ideas?
2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 15th July 2011, 16:13

   Get them balanced or checked. Check when they do it and get them to make sure its 5gram MAX out... nothing more.
3. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

   #3 15th July 2011, 16:39

   as aboth id check if they done then especially if or standard vtr rim as the dont fit on normal wheel balancer you need a different adaptor which many places dont have
4. bobbyd Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Preston Posts: 402 Vtr mk2.

   #4 15th July 2011, 17:20

   its been done though and they said it was perfect. running td 1.2s with 25mm spacers? couldnt be them could it?
5. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #5 15th July 2011, 17:28

   are they hub centric spacers??? the ones which bolt to the hub then wheel NUTS to hold the wheel on??
   
   if not then you found your problem!
   
   i have normal spacers on my 206, got new tyres and balenced etc, wheel woble like hell!!!
   
   hubcentric spacers will solve this, usually around £50 a pair on ebay
6. bobbyd Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Preston Posts: 402 Vtr mk2.

   #6 15th July 2011, 17:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_89 are they hub centric spacers??? the ones which bolt to the hub then wheel NUTS to hold the wheel on?? if not then you found your problem! i have normal spacers on my 206, got new tyres and balenced etc, wheel woble like hell!!! hubcentric spacers will solve this, usually around £50 a pair on ebay

   no theyre just bolt straight through, its never done this before and i must have had the wheels on 6 months. might give it a try though.
   
   cheers.
7. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #7 15th July 2011, 18:10

   see my car came with them on etc and all was ok till i had new tyres put on.
   
   basically the type or spacers you have are not attached to the hub so is technically a extra weight on the wheel, so yea they wheels are balenced but then the weight of the spacer is added...
   
   you could try asking places to balence the wheels with the spacers between the wheel and the balencing machine but i tried this and most places sid they would not do it, but that would solve the problem also.
8. Furioman Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS

   #8 15th July 2011, 18:32

   saxo_89 thats not the problem with those spacers, its the fact the hub locates the wheel and stops it moving, when you fit non-hub centric spaces you are doing away with the locating action of the hub so the wheel is never going to be centred on the hub and there is nothing stopping the wheel from moving slightly during use. And if the wheel isnt centred on the hub it will bob up and down on rotation causing vibration ect
9. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #9 15th July 2011, 18:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Furioman saxo_89 thats not the problem with those spacers, its the fact the hub locates the wheel and stops it moving, when you fit non-hub centric spaces you are doing away with the locating action of the hub so the wheel is never going to be centred on the hub and there is nothing stopping the wheel from moving slightly during use. And if the wheel isnt centred on the hub it will bob up and down on rotation causing vibration ect

   thanks for that
   
   that would explain fully why the vibration i get comes and goes then!!!
   
   no sarcasim at all here, thanks!
   
   Karl.
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 16th July 2011, 00:46

    Or the weights have just fallen off your wheels.
11. lilbenchy9192 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Swindon Posts: 943 Renault clio dynamique tomtom 1.2

    #11 16th July 2011, 10:38

    check the cv joints, and drive shaft while ur at it, when my drive shaft went it vibrated like stink everytime u touch the right hand peddle
12. bobbyd Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Preston Posts: 402 Vtr mk2.

    #12 17th July 2011, 10:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lilbenchy9192 check the cv joints, and drive shaft while ur at it, when my drive shaft went it vibrated like stink everytime u touch the right hand peddle

    its had all the cvs replaced, when i had the wheel bearings done.
13. lilbenchy9192 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Swindon Posts: 943 Renault clio dynamique tomtom 1.2

    #13 18th July 2011, 18:34

    drive shafts??
14. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #14 18th July 2011, 18:57

    have u got spigot rings on the spacers? maybe they need replacing if they have any wear/splits in them
15. rick_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2011 Abermule, Mid Wales. Posts: 2763 Corsa Rally Car & Fiesta ST

    #15 18th July 2011, 19:05

    get H&R trak + hubcentric spacers, i have been advised to use them as im going to be getting spacers soon. there the best on the market. approx £200 - £250 depending where you get them. thats including delivery usualy.
16. lilbenchy9192 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Swindon Posts: 943 Renault clio dynamique tomtom 1.2

    #16 19th July 2011, 13:31

    wow that seems steap, most people spend 200-300 on the wheels lol