Coilover conversion advice......?

1. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #1 21st July 2011, 16:11

   Removed my front suspension from the 106 today.... it has bilstein group n dampers in mint condition so ill keep using these, ill be having some new struts that have been converted to a coilover setup in the next few weeks....
   
   i have thick black cap bilstein rear group n shocks, and am planning to use 22/23mm rear bars
   
   my question is, for the coilover conversion setup to be complete i require springs.... with 22/23 bars and this bilstein setup what lb's rated springs shall i go for and where can i get them from?
   
   faulkner? the car will be used primarily on track?!
   
   thanks
2. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #2 21st July 2011, 22:16

   anbody?
3. mangojace Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Hampshire Posts: 1484

   #3 21st July 2011, 22:17

   250 lb faulkners ftw.Im only one 200lb atm and use it daily.But could easily go harder!
4. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #4 21st July 2011, 22:33

   250lb? sounds good? would say 300 be overkill and will i need helpers also?
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 21st July 2011, 22:55

   Dont you need to get normal billie grpNs revalved for that much lb spring?
   
   Id still not bother though, they feel quite harsh imo, id get pugsport grpNs they feel much smoother
6. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #6 21st July 2011, 23:02

   not looking to change really.... so 250 or 300 lb springs will be too much fo the bilsteins?
7. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #7 21st July 2011, 23:08

   For normal grPn's im sure. Im abit out of touch, im sure someone will back it up or correct me.
   
   I really wouldnt use them though, very harsh.
8. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #8 21st July 2011, 23:10

   may try them first i think and see how i like them, thanks for the advice
   
   anyone else suggest a spring rating?
9. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #9 21st July 2011, 23:17

   Bilsteins will become harsh if the inertia valve within them is worn or faulty. as standar and in fully working order they are usually a fantastic damper
10. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #10 21st July 2011, 23:19

    rally design and merlin motorsport sell coilover springs
11. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #11 21st July 2011, 23:25

    I would go to faulkner directly. they have a website. or give them a call
12. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #12 21st July 2011, 23:27

    well the bilsteins are in mint condition recently fitted by previous owner, after reading a few threads by sandy over on rr i think ill go for 23mm rear bars and 250 or 300lb springs
    
    will i need helpers too though? and 2.25 or 2.5" diameter? and what length?
13. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #13 21st July 2011, 23:30

    I've never used helpers on coilovers, they're only there to pass a mot.
    
    And spring diameter depends on what conversion kit you're going to use
14. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #14 21st July 2011, 23:32

    Right ok, so leave the helpers, and just get same diameter springs as the collar that comes with conversion kit?
    
    how about length - 6" 7"?
15. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #15 21st July 2011, 23:37

    7" spring sounds good and most kits say what size spring you need, usually its 2.25"

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