Starter Motor Dead?

1. Jeffers-Gti Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Chester, U.K Posts: 485 99 plate 106 Gti

   #1 30th July 2011, 09:45

   Morning everyone
   
   Since I got my Furio, its always had a tantrum when starting, and it sounds like that starter motor is spinning but not engaging on the flywheel and turning the engine over .
   
   I initially was told when I got the car that it was because of the aftermarket alarm and immobilisier, having stipped it last night this is not the case !
   
   
   Just want to double check that its definatly going to be the starter motor thats fucked , and yes I have tried WD40 and hitting it with a hammer its just got gradually worse and worse to the point it wont start at all without being bumped
   
   
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 30th July 2011, 10:44

   It`s more than likely the starter the ring gear has probably worn away so it spins & doesn`t engage.
   
   Steve.
3. REVO_OTE L-plater Joined: Jul 2011 Hampton Posts: 89 02 Ice Grey Saxo Furio/VTR

   #3 30th July 2011, 10:57

   Starter motor solenoid is your best bet mate
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 30th July 2011, 10:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by REVO_OTE Starter motor solenoid is your best bet mate

   If it was the solenoid the starter wouldn`t spin.
   
   Steve.
5. Jeffers-Gti Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Chester, U.K Posts: 485 99 plate 106 Gti

   #5 30th July 2011, 11:22

   Sound, Just so long as I know. Im going to get another one today to put on
   
   Hopefully it does the trick.
   
   So you reckon its the gear inside that pushes it out to the flywheel ?
6. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #6 30th July 2011, 11:38

   When your solenoid energizes the ring gear it spins the teeth on the ring(it`s cog wheel)become worn so they don`t spin the flywheel.That`s what sounds like has happen with yours.Easiet way of taking off the starter is from underneath no need to take off the inlet manifold as others might suggest doing.
   
   Steve.
7. Jeffers-Gti Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Chester, U.K Posts: 485 99 plate 106 Gti

   #7 30th July 2011, 11:45

   Ahh I see.
   
   I already had it off last night, I do it from the top without the inlet off, always have !
   
   The teeth on the starter motor were quite worn like you say.
8. REVO_OTE L-plater Joined: Jul 2011 Hampton Posts: 89 02 Ice Grey Saxo Furio/VTR

   #8 30th July 2011, 16:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 If it was the solenoid the starter wouldn`t spin. Steve.

   
   The starter motor can still spin without engaging, it just wouldnt engage with the flywheel, the solenoid kicks the gear out to engage with the flywheel, then it powers up the motor, hence the name pre-engaged starter motor.
   
   I had the same problem, i had to whack the solenoid because it was seized and wasnt engaging with the flywheel, however the starter motor was still spinning.
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 30th July 2011, 19:49

   either the starter is on its way out as said... or your battery is fucked/for whatever reason not charging properly
   
   ive got starters for sale if you need one