women in need!!??

1. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

   #1 12th August 2011, 15:38

   Iv recently had a mot which my car failed. To get it throu i had to pay £350 amongst other things he changed the drivers side gearbox mounting seal. After a couple of days it started leaking gearbox oil rapidly. I took it back and they said the seal had broken and did it again. Today its started leaking again slowly. I have taken it back and they said its because the gear selector is on the way out.
   
   Im female and dont know anything about cars, i dont know if im being ripped off or not and need some advise!? I had the gearbox replaced last year and have had nothing but trouble with it since.
   
   Sorry if the above doesnt make any sense but this is just a final shot before i sell it
   
   its a saxo vtr 1998
   :'-(
2. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

   #2 12th August 2011, 15:46

   My names emma and this is my parteners account. I hope i havent been through the change yet as im only 23
   I have taken it to the garage and this is the response i got.
   If you havent got any helpfull advice then please dont bother to comment
   thanks

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3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 12th August 2011, 15:52

   Gearbox mounting seal leaking?!
   
   The gearbox is a self contained unit so there's no real seal where it mounts to the engine/chassis that could leak.
   
   Driveshaft seal? Input shaft seal? Gearbox end cover seal?
4. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #4 12th August 2011, 15:53

   Also, try and get a few good pictures of the gearbox if you can - should help us a lot to help you out
5. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

   #5 12th August 2011, 15:54

   So if they are ripping me off then what??
   
   Im not touchy. Just really stressed and heard the people on here are really helpfull
6. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #6 12th August 2011, 15:54

   Hate it when women say "I'm a woman so I know nothing about cars"
   
   And then complain when we say "Stupid woman, doens't know a thing about cars".
   
   
   Emma, I'd take the car back to the gearbox centre that originally changed the gearbox. If it's failing after a year it should still be in warranty and you have every right to get it sorted for free. Unfortunately you won't sell it in the current state so get it sorted now before it gets any worse.
   
   Tom
7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 12th August 2011, 15:56

   Yes it sounds like they are ripping you off - but give us more info and we'll try and help out.
   
   Pictures of underside of gearbox would help.
   
   What does your invoice say?
   
   Gear linkages won't make the gearbox leak fluid (rarely - ive never seen it personally)
8. Malky Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1057

   #8 12th August 2011, 15:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dave1609 So if they are ripping me off then what?? Im not touchy. Just really stressed and heard the people on here are really helpfull

   If they are ripping you off, then take the car elsewhere, to a place who will not discriminate towards men wearing a dress.

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9. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

   #9 12th August 2011, 15:57

   I will get my fella to try and take some pics when he finishes work
   thanx
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 12th August 2011, 16:00

    Could be the actual box casing is cracked and leaking, or the end cover on the box. Jack it up and look for a leak.
11. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #11 12th August 2011, 16:02

    I dont know anything about cars!! I just dont. The garage who changed the gearbox in the first place are no longer open. So cant take it back
    
    Im not home atm but will have a look at the invoice when i get back.
12. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #12 12th August 2011, 16:04

    So if they are ripping me off then what??
    
    Im not touchy. Just really stressed and heard the people on here are really helpfull
13. Malky Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1057

    #13 12th August 2011, 16:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave1609 I dont know anything about cars!! I just dont. The garage who changed the gearbox in the first place are no longer open. So cant take it back Im not home atm but will have a look at the invoice when i get back.

    In all seriousness, if you know nothing about cars, then any advice you maybe given on here, i.e technical information on gearboxes etc will just go straight over your head anyway. I don't see it helping you one bit.
    
    I stand by my recommendation of taking someone along who knows a bit about cars, or taking it to another garage for a second opinion.
    
    If they state the same, then the first garage are not ripping you off.
    
    Oh, and if your fella is taking pics, can I request one of you wearing a snorkel and green frog eyed wellies?
    
    Thanks
14. slow-norris Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 birmingham Posts: 368 SAXO VTR

    #14 12th August 2011, 16:10

    firstly the gear selecta will have no effect on the gearbox leaking at all so ignore that!!
    
    i assume u mean the driveshaft oil seal as these are common on all citroen/peugeots, make sure they are using genuine parts (proper citreon seal is only £13 - i work for citroen/peugeot) and they are fitting it correctly if its not fitted flush they can pinch and leak also ask where it is leaking from because there is a tube inside the gearbox bell housing where the release bearing slides this has an oil seal inside of it and if it leaks can leak fluid from the bottom of the gearbox?
    
    mike
15. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #15 12th August 2011, 16:24

    ^ to sum up - leaks from input shaft seal, driveshaft seal or end case cover.
    
    Could be leaking from the gearbox casing itself but would assume the garage wouldn't even try and 'rip' you off repairing that as it's too hard to do for a general garage
16. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #16 12th August 2011, 16:45

    I have the invoice this is what it says
    
    repairs;
    Mot test and repairs
    reflector fitted to rear
    o/s fog light repaired
    o/s/f brake hose fitted correctly
    brake sensor valve changed
    exhaust welded correctly to get through emissions
    rear discs and pads changed
    spark plugs changed
    o/s gearbox seal changed
    
    
    parts used
    rear markers
    gearbox oil
    38 bulb
    brake fluid
    Brake valve
    brake pipe
    brake pipe unions
    consumadles
    discs 2
    Pads set
    heat consumables
    gearbox seal
    
    total £ 345.79
    
    
    
    2nd time it went in;
    
    Recovery to garage
    
    repairs
    
    both gearbox driveshaft seals leaking
    o/s driveshaft centre bearing not positioned correctly-fitted bearing correctly. Both seals changed refitted as required
    wrong hub nut fitted to n/s drive shaft. New nut fitted
    
    
    parts used
    
    seals x2
    Gearbox oil
    hub nut
    
    total; £79.53
    
    
    now they say its the gearbox selector thats causing the leak
17. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #17 12th August 2011, 16:46

    And they say that they cant fix the gearbox selector
18. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #18 12th August 2011, 16:48

    Only driveshaft seals - I'd get them to fix it for free, if they really kick up I'd go elsewhere, and not go back to them.
    
    It isn't anything to do with the shifter/linkage
19. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #19 12th August 2011, 17:12

    No, but atleast it gave you guys something to do
    
    :-)
20. Malky Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1057

    #20 12th August 2011, 17:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave1609 No, but atleast it gave you guys something to do :-)

    glad to be of service.
21. user_50864 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Cardiff Posts: 140 Saxo 1.6 vtr

    #21 12th August 2011, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Malky You are just being pathetic now. Everyone knows that the headlight fluid is self filling.

    looolll will it what if its broken tho will the car blow up
22. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #22 12th August 2011, 17:18

    Take it to another garage and ask them where its leaking from, and ask for a price.
    
    
    Should take them 5 minutes to see where its leaking from. They shouldn't charge for doing this.
    
    
    To me it sounds like one of the driveshaft seals (which are about £15 quid) is leaking... Which is pretty easy fix. A garage shouldnt charge more than 1 maybe 2 hours labour.
    
    
    
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    p.s. to the comedians.
    One or two posts every once in a while is sometimes funny. A thread full of them from the same person is boring. Malky you're trying too hard.

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23. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #23 12th August 2011, 17:40

    Thread cleaned, this forum is here for people to be helped out, not for all the wannabe comedians to impress theyre e friends.
    
    I think a few holidays may be needed if this continues.

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24. Malky Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1057

    #24 12th August 2011, 17:53

    I apologise.

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25. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #25 12th August 2011, 18:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave1609 I have the invoice this is what it says repairs; Mot test and repairs reflector fitted to rear o/s fog light repaired o/s/f brake hose fitted correctly brake sensor valve changed exhaust welded correctly to get through emissions rear discs and pads changed spark plugs changed o/s gearbox seal changed parts used rear markers gearbox oil 38 bulb brake fluid Brake valve brake pipe brake pipe unions consumadles discs 2 Pads set heat consumables gearbox seal total £ 345.79 2nd time it went in; Recovery to garage repairs both gearbox driveshaft seals leaking o/s driveshaft centre bearing not positioned correctly-fitted bearing correctly. Both seals changed refitted as required wrong hub nut fitted to n/s drive shaft. New nut fitted parts used seals x2 Gearbox oil hub nut total; £79.53 now they say its the gearbox selector thats causing the leak

    Those 2 sets of prices of look high to me.
26. loudandproud205 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 lincs Posts: 1044 205 Dimma, MR2 turbo Range Rover, Laguna

    #26 12th August 2011, 21:13

    Where are you located?
    
    I will have a look round it if you are round Lincolnshire area, I can advise or do the repairs
27. dave1609 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 18

    #27 13th August 2011, 20:05

    Im near birmingham
    
    :-/
28. user_38615 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Birmingham Posts: 2073 Current - 56 1.9 astra Sri Owned - 54 C2 GT. Ow

    #28 13th August 2011, 20:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave1609 Im near birmingham :-/

    Im from birmingham

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