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1. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #1 17th August 2011, 15:05

   having trouble starting my car and noticed this on my cam belt does it need replacing
   cheers in advance mick
   
   
   
   
2. gs44201 Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Manchester Posts: 22 Silver VTR 90BHP PH2

   #2 17th August 2011, 15:07

   Lol the last thing i'd want is for it to snap! Itd get it replaced asap

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3. Lucas_VTR L-plater Joined: Jul 2011 Gloucester Posts: 45 MK2 Saxo VTR

   #3 17th August 2011, 15:10

   New Cam Belt Needed
4. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #4 17th August 2011, 15:12

   I wouldnt even start the car up until you replaced that mate.
   
   If it snaps its bye bye engine.. you'll bend a few valves.. usually cheaper to replace engine if it does snap.
5. user_44477 Established Member Joined: May 2010 rotherham Posts: 1813 2001 Citroen saxo furio.

   #5 17th August 2011, 15:18

   definitely not safe lol
   
   surprised you even need to ask.
6. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #6 17th August 2011, 15:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by leeham987 definitely not safe lol surprised you even need to ask.

   i know nowt about cars mate
   
   how much am i looking at roughly to get it done
7. ads85 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Bradford on Avon,Nr Bath Posts: 866 '01 astra coupe

   #7 17th August 2011, 15:37

   Probably somewhere around 150-200 depending on who you use to get it done, had my ex's punto done couple of weeks ago for 100
8. user_44477 Established Member Joined: May 2010 rotherham Posts: 1813 2001 Citroen saxo furio.

   #8 17th August 2011, 15:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsmad i know nowt about cars mate how much am i looking at roughly to get it done

   not 100% mate, but whilst you're doing it i would recommend changing the water pump whilst the belt is of. i got quoted £150 for timing belt supplied and fitted, also the water pump. However i got lucky and my mate did it for free
9. Jyxo Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Luton Posts: 361 1. MK2 Wicked Red Furio 2. MK2 VTS

   #9 17th August 2011, 15:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsmad i know nowt about cars mate how much am i looking at roughly to get it done

   I paid £110 for my VTS belt to be done.
10. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #10 17th August 2011, 16:59

    lol your well lucky you spotted that that could have ended up £££'s..
11. user_36974 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Manchester Posts: 570 Mercury Grey VT?

    #11 17th August 2011, 17:46

    wow.. good job you spotted it! as said, wouldnt even start it till youve got it replaced
12. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #12 17th August 2011, 17:48

    trying to get it sorted
13. knight-22 Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 Hampshiiiire Posts: 1710 mk2 vts, e36

    #13 17th August 2011, 17:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jyxo I paid £110 for my VTS belt to be done.

    £110!!... I paid £230! was at a pug/citroen specialist though
14. tepson L-plater Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 89

    #14 17th August 2011, 17:55

    deffo replace!
15. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #15 17th August 2011, 18:12

    65-ish for full cambelt kit, may as well get water pump done at same time,plus labour, still a shit-load cheaper then repairing the damage it will do when it snaps!
16. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #16 17th August 2011, 18:51

    wow your lucky you saw that bet it wouldnt of lasted much longer.
17. saxo_singh Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 4289 02 VTR'd Furio, 07 Audi A4 Avant S Line

    #17 17th August 2011, 19:32

    Surprised it hasn't snapped before you noticed it!!
    Get a decent kit aswell, the continental kits is what I'd reccomened
18. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #18 17th August 2011, 19:36

    cheap belts whine - worth paying the extra £10 or so for a decent one - unless you like the "electric car" soundtrack
    
    Staggered that hasn't already snapped to be honest.
19. DanTvts Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Torbay Posts: 1285 Mauritius Vts, 206 Gti 180

    #19 17th August 2011, 19:50

    Im amazed that belt hasnt snapped already to be honest!
20. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #20 17th August 2011, 20:50

    You were lucky as everybodies said get it replaced asap.
21. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #21 17th August 2011, 20:51

    im trying to get it sorted
22. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #22 18th August 2011, 09:05

    its going in today been quoted £232 inc vat for a cambelt pulleys and water pump and them to collect it on a recovery truck
23. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #23 18th August 2011, 09:49

    Well done - I know it's a bit more expensive, but you've done a very smart thing with the recovery truck.
    
    That's genuinely a very good idea that most people would overlook.
    At least it will be sorted, and you'll have a warranty too

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24. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #24 18th August 2011, 13:30

    just had a call from the garage they think ive bent some valves they doing a compression test on it
25. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #25 18th August 2011, 13:37

    Bad times Michael.....
26. Aaron Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2008 ..... Posts: 5231 ..............

    #26 18th August 2011, 13:38

    it would of only bent valves if the timing was out,(by the picture it could of been out due to the belt being in the way it was) which would mean wouldnt start/run shit
    
    valves arent that much to replace so dont worry Plus you can upgrade to Jp4 ones which are bigger
27. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #27 18th August 2011, 13:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Bad times Michael.....

    very bad times james
28. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #28 18th August 2011, 13:58

    That would suck, although I'm not convinced you will have damaged anything as it looks like the car was still running ok just with damage to the belt. It might have slipped a tooth (or two) but you'd have heard that (contact of the valves on the pistons) and as said above, it would run like dogshit.
29. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #29 18th August 2011, 14:12

    apparently when they took the belt off it was split in 3 places and there was a bolt in there which i must of dropped
30. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #30 18th August 2011, 14:51

    bah fuck doesnt sound good. hope you hear something positive mate
31. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #31 18th August 2011, 15:01

    they taking the head off to see what damage is done
32. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #32 18th August 2011, 16:25

    just had a call from the garage 8 valves are fooked total bill will be £560 thats for everything
33. user_50089 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Bradford on Avon (Near Bath) Posts: 653 - 1999 MK1 Citroen Saxo Westie - Dead - 2003 Niss

    #33 18th August 2011, 16:58

    change it quick lad, dont drive it like that!
34. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #34 18th August 2011, 16:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_gray change it quick lad, dont drive it like that!

    its in the garage been done mate
35. Jyxo Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Luton Posts: 361 1. MK2 Wicked Red Furio 2. MK2 VTS

    #35 18th August 2011, 16:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsmad just had a call from the garage 8 valves are fooked total bill will be £560 thats for everything

    Most probably cheaper buying a new engine if you can source one tbh.
36. user_36974 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Manchester Posts: 570 Mercury Grey VT?

    #36 18th August 2011, 17:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jyxo Most probably cheaper buying a new engine if you can source one tbh.

    bad times.. buying another engine would probably work out cheaper but atleast this engines had a new belt, waterpump, headgasket n pretty much rebuilt head so you know what youve got and it should have some sort of warrenty if something wasnt right
37. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #37 18th August 2011, 17:46

    can get a replacement head for cheaper!
    
    definately bent and not just taking you for a ride? (the reason i say is because every time i've had something go on the car, my usual garage used to keep the knackered ones so they could justify the costs (which tbh weren't much!) so i got shown a release bearing in no less than 7 parts once!
38. user_50089 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Bradford on Avon (Near Bath) Posts: 653 - 1999 MK1 Citroen Saxo Westie - Dead - 2003 Niss

    #38 18th August 2011, 19:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxovtsmad its in the garage been done mate

    good man! I almost spat me tea over me laptop when I saw the photo!
39. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #39 18th August 2011, 20:34

    Its alright saying its cheaper to buy a replacement engine etc etc but then you have no history on it.
    
    Once this is done atleast you know the cambelt, waterpump, headgasket etc etc is all fine.
    
    I dont think its a bad price at all tbh.
40. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

    #40 18th August 2011, 20:47

    For around that price, you could get a stupidly low milage JP4 put in, including Waterpump, Cambelt and full conversion stuff.
41. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #41 18th August 2011, 20:49

    Well i think you've done the right thing personally Mick. Its like people who replace their axle for something they find in a breakers yard.....it lasts 3 months and then they have issues and start moaning lol.

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42. LEWIS1234 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 guisborough Posts: 120 saxo vtr mk2 black

    #42 18th August 2011, 21:12

    defos needs replacing looking at around 150
43. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #43 18th August 2011, 21:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Its alright saying its cheaper to buy a replacement engine etc etc but then you have no history on it. Once this is done atleast you know the cambelt, waterpump, headgasket etc etc is all fine. I dont think its a bad price at all tbh.

    i agree james the guy thats doing it said the engine is very very good and its been well looked after
44. ash-vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 stoke-on-trent Posts: 209 VTS

    #44 18th August 2011, 21:30

    where have you took it mick to get done?
45. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #45 18th August 2011, 21:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ash-vts where have you took it mick to get done?

    french connection in fenton mate
46. ash-vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 stoke-on-trent Posts: 209 VTS

    #46 18th August 2011, 21:53

    neva heard a bad word about them mick so shud be a decent service off them.
47. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #47 19th August 2011, 09:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ash-vts neva heard a bad word about them mick so shud be a decent service off them.

    ive heard they are really good mate thats why i went there
48. danpalmer90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Carlisle Posts: 115 02 plate saxo vtr

    #48 19th August 2011, 10:28

    good spot!!
49. user_44477 Established Member Joined: May 2010 rotherham Posts: 1813 2001 Citroen saxo furio.

    #49 19th August 2011, 14:31

    always good to pay the bit extra for a good job mate, far too many bodgers on here.
50. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #50 19th August 2011, 22:00

    picking the car up tomorrow all done
51. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #51 19th August 2011, 22:24

    Ask if they have the damaged valves dude....would be interesting to see a picture.
52. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

    #52 20th August 2011, 08:14

    will see if they still have them and the belt