grooved and drilled disks ?

23rd August 2011, 03:34

These any good or shall i stick to my standard boring looking ones lol ?

23rd August 2011, 03:40

If your replacing i would stick with standard disc and mintex 1144 pads.
That should be good enough.

Or put the money towards a bigger brake set up entirely?

23rd August 2011, 03:43

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Originally Posted by Vtr_Cam

If your replacing i would stick with standard disc and mintex 1144 pads.
That should be good enough.

Or put the money towards a bigger brake set up entirely?

Well i find the standard breaks arn't great so i would like better breaks... dont realli want to go bigger as i want to keep my vtr wheels on it not sure if bigger disks would fit... but at the same time i want breaks that i can feel working strait away not having to stamp on the brakes to stop lol

23rd August 2011, 03:44

soz about my terrible spelling lol its early lol

23rd August 2011, 03:48

Depends on the way you drive, And possibly your brakes are due changing anyway?

23rd August 2011, 05:57

Na they are farely new, i think its because im so used to driving newer cars were the pedal is sharp and more responsive...

23rd August 2011, 07:22

no point of getting drilled and grooved disk might as well save up and get some 4 pit brakes like hi specs or brembos!

23rd August 2011, 09:33

The most important things when speccing brakes are the contact area and the pad material...so bigger brakes and better pads. Drilled and grooved discs are to dissapate heat quicker and try and keep the brakes cool to combat brake fade.

Brake feel will be the same whatever discs and pads you use on the standard brakes, this is to do with the master cylinder and other gubbins in the braking system.

23rd August 2011, 09:46

drilled and grooved look nice. Thats about it really for a road car. You wont stop quicker with them. Thats a fact.

23rd August 2011, 10:49

Try OEM disks, decent pads and some good fluid bled well, standard brakes shouldnt be crap

23rd August 2011, 11:27

I'm looking at putting either 306 gti or brembo four pots on the front of my VTS, and will be getting 283mm drilled and grooved discs on the front and standard size drilled discs on the back. I'm not going to lie, although I want to up the power and take it on track the brakes are very clearly visible through my wheels which are 15" team dynamics, so the cosmetics of big drilled and grooved discs behind the wheels is pretty appealing.

They will make a difference to brake fade and heat dissipation, but on a saxo the benefits will be marginal. They're downright essential on a heavy touring or rally car that's constantly braking hard from high speeds down for a corner, but a lightweight saxo that does the odd track day (like mine) they're not really needed.

So it's up to you, if the cosmetics are important to you and you can justify the extra cash over standard, then why not. But if you're happy with standard discs and good quality pads you won't notice any real downsides so I wouldn't worry too much

23rd August 2011, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Treebo88

Well i find the standard breaks arn't great so i would like better breaks... dont realli want to go bigger as i want to keep my vtr wheels on it not sure if bigger disks would fit... but at the same time i want breaks that i can feel working strait away not having to stamp on the brakes to stop lol

266mm brakes fit under VTR wheels perfectly fine.

i had some off a 206gti on my VTR, had to grind the caliper a tiny fit so it did not foul the suspension strut and just used standard discs and pads and the difference was unreal!!

worth looking into, can pick up a set of the calipers for around £50-£80 these days.

23rd August 2011, 17:58

i just bought a set of 266mm brakes or a member on here for 90 quid.

thats complete calipers
caliper bolts (even tho standard vtr ones will fit he's sending them anyway)
part worn disks
nearly new pads
and nearly new braided lines

thats £90 including the postage aswell,
so you can get some pretty decent deals if you look around.

think these were of a 307hdi.

will let you know how much better they are once ive fitted them this weekend.

23rd August 2011, 18:00

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Originally Posted by rick_VTR

i just bought a set of 266mm brakes or a member on here for 90 quid.

thats complete calipers
caliper bolts (even tho standard vtr ones will fit he's sending them anyway)
part worn disks
nearly new pads
and nearly new braided lines

thats £90 including the postage aswell,
so you can get some pretty decent deals if you look around.

think these were of a 307hdi.

will let you know how much better they are once ive fitted them this weekend.

you wont be disapointed!! although i would advise getting new discs and pads not using the part worn ones.

can pick them up at andrew page for sub £50

23rd August 2011, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

i just bought a set of 266mm brakes or a member on here for 90 quid.

thats complete calipers
caliper bolts (even tho standard vtr ones will fit he's sending them anyway)
part worn disks
nearly new pads
and nearly new braided lines

thats £90 including the postage aswell,
so you can get some pretty decent deals if you look around.

think these were of a 307hdi.

will let you know how much better they are once ive fitted them this weekend.

Yea if you could dude that would be much appreciated !

Cheers everyone for your input ! some very usefull info !

23rd August 2011, 18:03

yeah i know i should really put new disks and pads on as its all apart and what not, but im a tight welshman so i feel i have to stick the part worns on and burn them down and then put new ones on haha.

23rd August 2011, 18:07

haha i see, it will be ok but thats just what i would do.

when you come to replace them get some track/fast road pads on, then you will smile alot haha

23rd August 2011, 18:10

im guessing the 266mm brakes im getting that are apparently off a 307hdi are the same as the 206gti ones then?

so did you run with standard disks (my motor factor supplies mintex as standard replacement)
and what pads were you using?

23rd August 2011, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

im guessing the 266mm brakes im getting that are apparently off a 307hdi are the same as the 206gti ones then?

so did you run with standard disks (my motor factor supplies mintex as standard replacement)
and what pads were you using?

when i come to think of it i think mine might of been off a HDI pug model actually but i cant see there being much difference... i know mine wer LUCAS calipers (which was printed on the caliper)

id advise taking one of the calipers (if possible) and a used pad into the motor factors though just to ensure you get the correct ones.

as for the pads etc i used, i just went to andrew page and asked for the cheapest ones they did lol think they wer made from recycled metal and i still seen a huge difference!

done a track day with them and im glad i had them, yea i did get some fade but they wer cheap as help discs and pads so couldnt complain to much.

team the mintex discs up with some mintex m1144 pads and im certain you will be more than happy with the money you spent

23rd August 2011, 18:25

ahhh i seeeee.

yeah i have always bought mintex so will go for mintex when the part worns need replacing

i havent actually seen a picture of my brakes yet so i duno if there lucas haha.

23rd August 2011, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

ahhh i seeeee.

yeah i have always bought mintex so will go for mintex when the part worns need replacing

i havent actually seen a picture of my brakes yet so i duno if there lucas haha.

just look on the front of the caliper and you will see some writing and numbers, may need to wire brush them if they have surface rust or anything.

you can get 2 types, one is lucas but can i hell remember the other, so you either have Lucas calipers or errr Other calipers

23rd August 2011, 18:32

okay, i shall have a look when im cleaning them down for painting. when they arrive that is

24th August 2011, 17:30

i put these on my vts and i was quite disapointed you cant really see them i would save and get 406 4 pot brembo brake conversion

24th August 2011, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Saxo_89

just look on the front of the caliper and you will see some writing and numbers, may need to wire brush them if they have surface rust or anything.

you can get 2 types, one is lucas but can i hell remember the other, so you either have Lucas calipers or errr Other calipers

Lucas or Bosch Calipers. Bosch being the better of the two iirc.

24th August 2011, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane_15023

i put these on my vts and i was quite disapointed you cant really see them i would save and get 406 4 pot brembo brake conversion

Obviously depends what wheels you've got, even with VTR/VTS wheels you can't see much of the brake discs, but an aftermarket wheel with big wide open spokes you can see probably 50-60% of the disc.

24th August 2011, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

drilled and grooved look nice. Thats about it really for a road car. You wont stop quicker with them. Thats a fact.

thats true they just look better