Important! : Clutch cable and clutch kit

1. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #1 30th August 2011, 23:50

   OK bit of a weird one but could do with a answer please, Basically my VTR previous owner has put in a manual clutch cable were you can adjust it rather than the automatic one, When I take my foot off the clutch I get like a slight rattle noise, So I changed the complete clutch kit and it still happens, When I put clutch in noise goes when I let off the clutch the noise comes back, Is this because of the manual clutch cable are they noisy or something?
   
   Thanks
2. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

   #2 30th August 2011, 23:55

   dont quote me. but think its the 2nd motion shaft in box! sorry for barer of bad news!
3. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

   #3 30th August 2011, 23:56

   very common
4. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #4 31st August 2011, 00:04

   Ok so what do I need to do ? New box? Or can I get this part?
5. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

   #5 31st August 2011, 00:10

   ive always put recon/2nd hand boxes in. no money in striping boxes down for me! haha best speaking to a local gearbox specialist as i no they are common so they should no about it too.
   hope this helps
6. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

   #6 31st August 2011, 00:10

   ive always put recon/2nd hand boxes in. no money in striping boxes down for me! haha best speaking to a local gearbox specialist as i no they are common so they should no about it too.
   hope this helps
7. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #7 31st August 2011, 00:12

   hmmm, My mate who was changing the clutch at the time said that the manual clutch cables are noisy like that, He seems to think its the cable
8. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

   #8 31st August 2011, 00:20

   thrust bearing ? mine does it even after a new clutch kit ,
9. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

   #9 31st August 2011, 00:27

   did u replace the bearing?
10. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #10 31st August 2011, 00:30

    what clutch kit did you use L.U.K ones rattle and make noise until there bedded in.
11. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #11 31st August 2011, 01:04

    I got a valeo clutch kit, My mate changed the release bearing were is the thrust bearing or is it same thing? I hope its not gearbox its only done 48,500 :s
12. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #12 31st August 2011, 08:25

    thrust bearing and release bearing are the same thing, sounds like input shaft bearing on box, quite common even on low mileage boxes
13. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #13 31st August 2011, 10:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 thrust bearing and release bearing are the same thing, sounds like input shaft bearing on box, quite common even on low mileage boxes

    Not good, How much you think it will cost me to put it right? Would that manual adjusted cable not give off a noise ? As its not the standard equipped automatic one they usually have?
    
    
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14. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #14 31st August 2011, 12:56

    The saxos do have manual adjustment cables.
    
    I'd stick with them ones personally, the automatic ones are a fucking pain in the arse on times!
15. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #15 31st August 2011, 14:20

    Ok, Well something is still not right with the car clutch down no noise clutch off noise... Could it be possible that the clutch may not have been fitted right ? Or the thrush bearing has slipped out of the socket or something ?
16. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #16 31st August 2011, 16:11

    Id go with mandyslover70 on this 1,take it to a gearbox specialist let them drive it then see what they say.
17. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #17 31st August 2011, 17:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Id go with mandyslover70 on this 1,take it to a gearbox specialist let them drive it then see what they say.

    The noise is very slight its nothing over the top, Tomorrow when i go to my mates will check the cable out, I hope its not gearbox if it is then it will have to be done.
18. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #18 31st August 2011, 19:34

    Source a vts box mate, and get it fitted. Sounds like box is on way out unfortunately
19. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #19 31st August 2011, 22:06

    Would it be better with a VTS box? and are they direct fit?
20. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #20 31st August 2011, 23:14

    yes. a direct fit and acceleration is better with S box
21. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #21 31st August 2011, 23:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 yes. a direct fit and acceleration is better with S box

    Ok cool does it still have problems with input bearings etc. As knowing my luck I will come out with a fucked vts box aswell as the fucked vtr box i already have
22. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #22 1st September 2011, 17:13

    all MA boxes suffer from the same problems, none of the bearings are any bigger or stronger
23. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #23 1st September 2011, 17:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 all MA boxes suffer from the same problems, none of the bearings are any bigger or stronger

    Ok mate, I was thinking aswell you know how the vts are a different box? It might be alittle quicker but will it wear on the engine or not ?
24. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #24 1st September 2011, 17:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChAdS Ok cool does it still have problems with input bearings etc. As knowing my luck I will come out with a fucked vts box aswell as the fucked vtr box i already have

    learnt that lesson
25. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #25 1st September 2011, 17:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu learnt that lesson

    What did a vts gearbox fuck up your engine?
26. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #26 1st September 2011, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChAdS Ok mate, I was thinking aswell you know how the vts are a different box? It might be alittle quicker but will it wear on the engine or not ?

    Tbh it`s all in the way you drive it mate.
27. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #27 1st September 2011, 18:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Tbh it`s all in the way you drive it mate.

    Im not one to thrash the shit out of my cars so I take it will be alright then
28. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #28 1st September 2011, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChAdS Im not one to thrash the shit out of my cars so I take it will be alright then

    Yep you should,good luck.
29. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #29 1st September 2011, 21:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Yep you should,good luck.

    Cheers mate, vts box will be going in, Hope i don't buy a fucked one