Upgraded brakes?

3rd September 2011, 18:59

Anyone got any ideas for upgraded braking? probably calipers aswell and discs and pads? any good kits out there for vtr's?

3rd September 2011, 19:05

search 406 brembo's

3rd September 2011, 19:11

cheers

3rd September 2011, 19:13

306

hi spec 4 pots that will fit under some 13s i think. use the M16 lug type.

3rd September 2011, 19:16

266mm brake upgrade there off 206 gti, and off 206 hdi 2.0 u could also look at the 206 gti 180 for big brake upgrade

ive just gt my 266mm kit cost me £60 bargain

3rd September 2011, 19:33

266 is the best option
better stopping power wide selection of cars with them on and they arnt as heavy as the 283s.

What ever you get team them up with good quality discs and pads along with good quality fluid and the correct length braided hoses (which i can supply) and your laughing

3rd September 2011, 19:39

I have 266mm Callipers on my VTR and they fit under the 14's perfectly, I have standard rubber hoses along with Mintex Pads and Discs and they are amazing compared to the 247mm's.

3rd September 2011, 19:45

You don't need 406 brembos unless you're running massive power or you're an ASW. (like me) 266mm discs and calipers from a 206 gti or similar are supposed to be great and an ideal upgrade for a Saxo, Mikol on here sells part refurbed 266 calipers at good prices so worth getting in touch with him.

On a related note, does anyone know if Brembo calipers from other models than the 406 will fit? Have seen Brembos from Clio 197s, Focus RS, Fiat Coupe to name a few on ebay. Are any of them the same spacing as the pug items?

3rd September 2011, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Darkslider

You don't need 406 brembos unless you're running massive power or you're an ASW. (like me) 266mm discs and calipers from a 206 gti or similar are supposed to be great and an ideal upgrade for a Saxo, Mikol on here sells part refurbed 266 calipers at good prices so worth getting in touch with him.

On a related note, does anyone know if Brembo calipers from other models than the 406 will fit? Have seen Brembos from Clio 197s, Focus RS, Fiat Coupe to name a few on ebay. Are any of them the same spacing as the pug items?

They are the same base caliper, alot of the pads are the same but the mount lugs are slightly different

3rd September 2011, 20:25

will 266 fit under 13s though?

Need 13s for slicks.

3rd September 2011, 20:37

focus RS brambos and fiat 20vTurbo ones are the same caliper but the lug spacing is too far apart for the saxo strut

3rd September 2011, 20:38

focus RS brambos and fiat 20vTurbo ones are the same caliper but the lug spacing is too far apart for the saxo strut

266 are good but overheat on track if behind 14'' rallye steels

3rd September 2011, 21:16

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Originally Posted by e8_pqck

will 266 fit under 13s though?

Need 13s for slicks.

I have just enough space to put 2 alloy sticky weights on top of each other (hope you can guage clearance from that)

Dave.

3rd September 2011, 22:54

On a standard car, I found that good standard spec pads, discs and fluid have been plenty. 266s will be more than enough (says the guy with 285mm Hispecs on an AX lol)

3rd September 2011, 22:59

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Originally Posted by DreamEater

I have just enough space to put 2 alloy sticky weights on top of each other (hope you can guage clearance from that)

Dave.

got any pics? you run 13's on yours?

3rd September 2011, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamEater

I have just enough space to put 2 alloy sticky weights on top of each other (hope you can guage clearance from that)

Dave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by e8_pqck

got any pics? you run 13's on yours?

Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I thought, I run 14's and that's how much room I have.

Here is a picture of mine, sorry for the lack of light, I had just fitted them but didn't have my camera to hand so used the phone...

4th September 2011, 00:12

just fitted some 266mm calipers myself. Bought them off ebay for £25! bargin. They feel a lot more powerful than the 247s and stopping power is great

the only downside to upgrading to this calipers is the pedal travel is increased so braking is a bit weird to get used to at first can be solved though with a 23mm master cylinder I've read.

Its worth it upgrading though m8

4th September 2011, 00:53

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Originally Posted by rumble291

just fitted some 266mm calipers myself. Bought them off ebay for £25! bargin. They feel a lot more powerful than the 247s and stopping power is great

the only downside to upgrading to this calipers is the pedal travel is increased so braking is a bit weird to get used to at first can be solved though with a 23mm master cylinder I've read.

Its worth it upgrading though m8

Agreed.

You do get used to the travel, the travel is good in my opinion as I think with a larger MC the brakes will be more on and off, instead of a gradual force.

6th September 2011, 09:40

From what i've read 266's require minimum 14" wheel and 283's 15" wheel, if it helps

7th September 2011, 13:42

Cheer everyone for help! Wat was the 266 brakes fitted too as standard? Mite be a stupid question?

And so not worth buying bigger kits like tarox or brembos?

7th September 2011, 13:44

Forgot to say I'm running 15" pro race 1.2 wheels if this makes a difference?!

7th September 2011, 13:48

come from a 206 gti 130bhp, im running 206 gti 180 brakes there 283mm and the stopping power is unreal im using it with brembo discs and pads. but 283mm just clears my 15"vts wheels in no more so they wont fit 14"wheels

7th September 2011, 17:39

Do the callipers and discs of a 206 gti jut fit on the saxo vtr hubs and do the calipers need and spacers or anything?

7th September 2011, 23:28

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Originally Posted by P33_CHM

Do the callipers and discs of a 206 gti jut fit on the saxo vtr hubs and do the calipers need and spacers or anything?

Callipers and Discs off a 206 GTI are the 266mm ones, the callipers need one side grinding down to a rounded edge to clear the strut, but apart from that they are a straight fit.

You have 2 callipers, a lucas and a bosch, there was a an early and a later type, the lucas was the early type and some bosch's also, they had a 266mm disc that was 20.7mm thick. The later bosch ones had a 22mm thick disc.

If you PM Mikol, ask him for the later bosch ones, he'll supply them refurbished, ground down and painted to a colour of your choice, he'll also post them to you.

Dave.

8th September 2011, 18:32

This is my 266mm setup on my vtr.....

Bosch 54 calipers, exact braided lines and mintex discs with unipart pads (came with the calipers).....got it all for under £70

8th September 2011, 18:51

You got new calipers, discs, braided hoses and pads for 70 quid?!

8th September 2011, 18:56

Yeahhhh bro,

Second hand calipers, brand new discs, part worn pads and second hand but brand new braided lines.

8th September 2011, 18:58

Ahh right

Braided hoses worth it? What's the difference

8th September 2011, 19:03

They are apparently worth it....advantage is obviously reducing pressure loss (bulging) and giving you a better feel on the pedal but i'm yet to be convinced really. If I was on a budget or didn't find these second hand I would have just stuck with the rubber ones.

8th September 2011, 19:05

Yeah I'll replace em with braided when they need doing lol

8th September 2011, 19:19

Braided hoses aint expensive, i can do them at £26.50 the pair deliverd and made to spec for either 266 or 283.

8th September 2011, 22:16

I use rubber hoses and they are adequate, when I come to replace my rear callipers I'll be putting braided lines instead of rubber, I could "report" back with the results, although that would be a few weeks away...

9th September 2011, 08:44

I have some 266mm calipers you can buy if you want.