blacktop vtr engine been cammed, but have a few questions

1. user_45315 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 mansfield Posts: 774 vt replica (sold) furio sold Banana vtr!

   #1 16th September 2011, 16:40

   ok so i bought a 106 an it has in it a vtr blacktop lump
   
   bascally i was told it was remapped to the bigger injectors it has in it,
   
   but i checked the cam belt an it has a BAKER BM cam pully on it, its red in colour
   
   does this mean its cammed?
   
   also if its been mapped to these injectors (also has a fuel pressure regulater)
   
   it dont seem much quicker than my mates vtr?
   
   could i advance/retard the cam to make it any quicker?
   
   any help is appreciated
2. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #2 16th September 2011, 19:52

   I should say its likely if its can an vernier adjustable pulley but perhaps not. Sure fire way to to whip the cam end over off (next to the stat) and look for codes or stamps or under the rocker cover. Bare if mind you'll need to reseal it with some loctite or similar as theres usually oil in there but thats par for the course
3. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #3 16th September 2011, 20:10

   how does it idle mate? and is the rev limit removed?
   
   a cammed vtr should be quicker than standard. could be a bad engine, or your carrying more weight. does the other vtr have modifications?
   
   may not have a cam in as you can bolt the vernier pulleys to the standard cams.
   
   but im betting on it hasnt been mapped.
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 16th September 2011, 20:16

   Ok so you were told it had been remapped with bigger injectors but not a higher lift cam. If thats true...then wheres the extra air coming from to warrent the use of larger injectors?
5. user_45315 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 mansfield Posts: 774 vt replica (sold) furio sold Banana vtr!

   #5 16th September 2011, 20:17

   the rev limet seems normal mate, i know either its been mapped or unlocked as it has the company sticker an a warrenty seal on the ecu
   
   it idels fine, sometimes they stick after a gear change
   
   why would someone put just a pully on it? would it increase preformence?
6. user_45315 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 mansfield Posts: 774 vt replica (sold) furio sold Banana vtr!

   #6 16th September 2011, 20:20

   i dont know db sax
   
   but the injectors in it do seem big, an there is a pressure regulator for the fuel, on the gauge when the car is running the needle sits at 2
7. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #7 16th September 2011, 20:28

   this, to me, doesnt add up.
   
   why would some one run bigger injectors, if not fitting a mad cam and having it remapped.
   
   if the rev limiter is still there this suggests its not been mapped. if its not been mapped, the the idle would be erratic,thats if its a wildish cam.
   
   then again, when you say you 106 isnt "that much quicker' its not really going to be 3/4 car lengths ahead. but you should pull a bit on him even with bad gear changes. and it should show its quicker atleast.
8. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #8 16th September 2011, 20:39

   I`d suggest putting the car on a good dyno to check.
9. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #9 16th September 2011, 21:49

   Are you sure its a blacktop VTR engine? Could be a cammed 1.6 rallye/xsi engine if the injectors look like silver like this or the same as these with a black body:
   
   
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 16th September 2011, 21:52

    There maybe larger injectors in there I aint testing that. But they aint going to add power..
11. user_45315 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 mansfield Posts: 774 vt replica (sold) furio sold Banana vtr!

    #11 17th September 2011, 11:49

    there about that size mate yeah but there black,
    
    the lad who i bought it off said it was done previous to him, so he didnt have a clue,
    
    i just wanna know what i am running as i wanna make it a little quicker
12. beardyboy Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 essex Posts: 157 2001 saxo vtr turbo

    #12 17th September 2011, 18:57

    never belive anyone saying they have put cams init unless the have a recipt to prove it