Another ebay wonder chip, or not!?

1. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

   #1 12th July 2006, 03:03

   clicky
   
   yey or ney?
   
   if its good i wouldnt mind 11bhp for £80 lol
   
   but i got a feel its a load of shit
2. beastgtir Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 2178 Soon to be another Honda!

   #2 12th July 2006, 03:19

   looks real matey. id ask around though. seems the figures for torque are quite high though!
3. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #3 12th July 2006, 07:36

   I'd be sceptical of any chips on Ebay there's one for £4.99 claiming 20+ bhp so its probably the same chip, the bloke has more than likely just bumped the price up to try and gain some creditabilty.
4. Connor_scotland Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 Inverness - Scotland Posts: 8294 4th Impreza of the year - 391bhp - Audi S4 Avant,

   #4 12th July 2006, 07:42

   i would prob say its crap as its ebay but you never know
5. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #5 12th July 2006, 09:19

   11 bhp from a "chip" thats not mapped to your car or modifications! Come on guys its a narturally aspirated 1.4 8v, power does not come cheap from it!
6. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #6 12th July 2006, 09:57

   I cant believe some people even consider these chips.
7. DevilDamo Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13761

   #7 12th July 2006, 10:25

   Yeh get it! It does work. You'll notice the power increase in an instant. You'll be able to take on anything on the roads... NOT!!!
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by beastgtir looks real matey. id ask around though. seems the figures for torque are quite high though!

   Erhhh!?!
8. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #8 12th July 2006, 10:36

   I wouldn't fancy ripping my ECU apart to fit one of these things either and I cant see any garages/compaines wanting to fit it either.
9. grantsp51 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2006 United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 468 51plate vtr

   #9 12th July 2006, 10:56

   dont bother bud
10. droopster Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 SOUTHEND United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1300 VTS all the way baby.

    #10 12th July 2006, 10:59

    Waste of money in my opinion.
11. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #11 12th July 2006, 11:18

    Yeah but Magneti Marelli are a reputable company within the Motorsport industry.
12. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #12 12th July 2006, 11:28

    Wouldent like an induction kit do roughly the same for about the same price???
13. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #13 12th July 2006, 11:30

    its not made by magneti marelli, it just works with that ecu.
    
    An induction kit will not gain you 11bhp on a furio
14. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #14 12th July 2006, 11:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scott An induction kit will not gain you 11bhp on a furio

    
    Ok ignore me i dont have a clue! How much would it roughly?
15. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #15 12th July 2006, 12:00

    maybe 1bhp at the wheels if your lucky?
    depending on the filter, you can lose performance through "induction kits" x
16. DevilDamo Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13761

    #16 12th July 2006, 12:07

    I gained around +2bhp (at the fly) from a BMC induction kit.
17. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #17 12th July 2006, 12:09

    its quite simple really, a chip on its own will no pretty much nothing, the std ecu has alot of control built in to allow it alot of flexibility (you change the exhaust, air filter etc and the ecu adjusts to the new settings) a "chip" which is not mapped to your car will just guess the values based on someone elses car (for the persons car it was mapped on it was probably very good, but thats not to say it will work as well on yours, its the same when you buy a remapped ecu from jamsport and the cams it was mapped on, its a good start but its not the same engine so would still need a remap (although it will be alot closer than a generic chip ever would)
18. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #18 12th July 2006, 12:10

    id stay away with static chips, and either get a unichip where the operator (and unichip) will not charge you a penny if you dont get a gain, or a remap, but neither is worth it unless you have a few mods.
19. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #19 12th July 2006, 16:04

    thought so, another mystery solved!
20. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #20 12th July 2006, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scott its not made by magneti marelli, it just works with that ecu. An induction kit will not gain you 11bhp on a furio

    
    Yeah, but their name is still on it. Thats what Im getting at.
21. mark_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 839

    #21 12th July 2006, 17:09

    end of the day places like dastek etc wouldnt charge 250+ to remap it if you could get it for £80
    
    think about it
22. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #22 12th July 2006, 21:06

    After speaking with a local tuning garage this chip is just the same as a superchip its the programming you are paying for and not the chip itself as they are only pennys to buy so if this guy has a eprom burner then all it would take is for him to make a copy from a superchip and right his own program to the eprom chip making some changes if he knows what he is doing so this may do something but they are very hard to fit and something you cant do yourself unless you are a dab hand at soldering iron also this will require your immobiliser coding to be transfered from the orignal chip wich will set you back 60-100 quid then fitting you could be looking at another £50 so i believe this is why they are so cheap you would be looking at a realistic figure to buy and install would be around £200
23. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #23 13th July 2006, 09:40

    the chip clips in and clips out (not all chips are soldiered) so a numpty could do it, also the ecu is made my MM, the chip is not. Therefore MM does not have its name on the chip (hence why superchips are called super"chips" and not super"ecus")
24. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #24 13th July 2006, 19:38

    Hi mate you have to solder the socket carrier in to the ecu as the standard chip is a directly soldered in
25. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #25 13th July 2006, 19:40

    not on all ecus, even so its still not worth it. (there is bound to be some numpty that tries it and ferks his ecu and has to buy a new one)