anybody know this?

1. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

   #1 13th July 2006, 11:27

   ok-i was woundering if the gearboxez on 1999 models and 2000+ are the same for the saxo?
   i have read lots to say that it is,so if i put in a gear box from a vtr/s in to a furio then a turbo,it would get up to the 140+ if was tuned up "AS BEST AS YOU CAN GET" along this subject- how hard would it be to put in a final ratio into the gear box in 1.4 from 1.6/2.0?and would i have to declare to insurer about the fact that the gearbox has bin fideld?ofcorse about the turbo!
2. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #2 13th July 2006, 11:32

   Yes the gearboxes are the same across the age range for that particular model (except on the derv which did have a final drive change part way through it's life)... with the newer gearboxes will be a better choice as citroen will have probably made a few smallish changes through out the production of the saxo
   
   EDIT: and now i've read your question properly...
   The saxo 1.0 and 1.1 have the same box.
   the Furio and Derv have the same box
   The VTS has the same box as a 1.1 but with a different final drive
   and the VTR is the same as the furio and derv but with a different final drive (i think thats right for the VTR box)
3. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #3 13th July 2006, 11:37

   And it's best to discuss a modification like the gearbox with your insurance company before hand... i doubt they would take the gearbox to pieces in the event of a claim though.
4. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

   #4 13th July 2006, 12:05

   ok so how hard you recon it will be to fidle them final/d'z?,and comon when is the last time you seen a sax at the scrappy that had a dismanteld gear/b?
   anyway i need to eva switch g boxez with furio but want to down on up speed and up on top speed,wa box is beta please state the model and year
5. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #5 13th July 2006, 12:16

   dude take a little more time to post and type in english then we can understand better what your looking for.
   
   Vtr box will give you a higher top speed and slower acceleration
6. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #6 13th July 2006, 12:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rozhkov ok so how hard you recon it will be to fidle them final/d'z?,and comon when is the last time you seen a sax at the scrappy that had a dismanteld gear/b? anyway i need to eva switch g boxez with furio but want to down on up speed and up on top speed,wa box is beta please state the model and year

   yeah, after getting my saxp translator to decipher that in I can tell you...
   
   If the 1.1 box and the VTS box have the same ratios barring the final drive then I suspect it would be relatively easy to change the final drive. I'm out of league when it comes to this really. you would be better off hunting for a VTR box. Do a search... I've posted the ratios for each box plenty of times.
7. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

   #7 13th July 2006, 12:23

   get a 1.1 box. no top end but extremely quick though gears
8. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

   #8 13th July 2006, 12:35

   ok guy's im sorry for the fanulscnvhsrbghsddbhsbvhbsfgvh,so you think vtr for top speed?how much to have the box put in by citreon themself's?as i would like a peice of mind that if the fuck it up then its all good,and you know the ebay torboz....ya na wa i meen yaaa?they are shit but for a 1.4 would you notice a upper?as max tested it on mr2 2.0 and there was less with and more without but more psi/suction on mr2 than sax-so what you all recon?
9. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

   #9 13th July 2006, 14:15

   just had citroen qoute me 390 for gear/b and clutch interchange.....(((WTF)))
10. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

    #10 13th July 2006, 17:33

    Were you execting anything different?!?! Dealership prices are extreme..too extreme. You can get gaurantee at certain garages that arent dealership for probably half that!
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 14th July 2006, 09:31

    buy a Haynes Manual and try it yourself :
    
    Learn things on the way, the more tasks you succesfully complete the more skilled you become... you might bollock up your car though
12. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

    #12 14th July 2006, 11:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer buy a Haynes Manual and try it yourself : Learn things on the way, the more tasks you succesfully complete the more skilled you become... you might bollock up your car though

    i dont think i can bollox it up more than its was bolloxed up- and i did but haynez is shit and was the bigest waste of 20 i ever spent,hence me never actualy reading it(but i have it)anyway if you seen how much iv done by my self youd be amazed coz i ant no micanic but have done some rite dogsbolx cracking shit to it for a fork lift op i say im getting good
13. vtsturbo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2003 York United Kingdom (England) Posts: 256

    #13 14th July 2006, 11:34

    man i must be getting old as my eyes seem to be failing me.
    
    i`d like to try post up some help but can`t understand a thing you post, my apologies if taken as an insult.
14. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #14 14th July 2006, 12:20

    been told already mate, i cant understand half of it either but i did catch that the haynes wasnt worth £20 and you say your no mechanic. The haynes manual is a bible
15. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

    #15 14th July 2006, 12:28

    ok i meen its not got my engine in it(dont ask me why)its ok to fing faults but i want the max/power one,is it any good?
    and no offence taken,as your not in my shoes so i dont know the half im thinkin half the time hahahha
16. Mattvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 hinckley Posts: 2580

    #16 14th July 2006, 12:41

    max power one wont do anything like a gearbox, etc so better using haynes manual
17. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #17 14th July 2006, 14:02

    haynes wont tell you a gearbox either, if you cant understand the haynes manual you shouldnt be aloud to touch your car as you wont have the ability to understand simple things like why torque settngs are important and the reason things are present e.g. the standard airbox or breathers etc.
18. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

    #18 14th July 2006, 14:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ratty haynes wont tell you a gearbox either, if you cant understand the haynes manual you shouldnt be aloud to touch your car as you wont have the ability to understand simple things like why torque settngs are important and the reason things are present e.g. the standard airbox or breathers etc.

    what you on about mate "not aloud" so no nubbi to michanics is aloud to play with there car? get a grip of the real world will you,
    As for the max power-i want ideas,i have the haynes and can read and ant stupid,as far as the mag goes im just gona get a garage to do it hence thats there prof.
    mine is electronics,computers,hardware and software,im not a boff just not new to that
    ANYWAY,thats was the thread.....so sticking to it none of you actualy said anthing in anyway useful APART FROM ADSAYER thank YOU
19. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #19 14th July 2006, 14:46

    i said shouldnt be allowed (notice the wrong word use as well) as if you dont understand the basics you risk doing more bad than good. And sadly the real world is full of people who think they can do things when they cant (who would really do something without knowing exactly what they are doing).
    
    Max power is the worst place to start for ideas, as its like a bad habbit.
    
    Also simple use of english wouldnt go a miss instead of text speak.
    
    you what is electric computers hardware and software? can you get non electric computers??
    
    I did say something usefull, get a haynes, understand it, and it doesnt have the gearbox stuff in.
    
    hmmm.
20. rozhkov Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 623

    #20 14th July 2006, 16:52

    anyway if you dont intend on helping in any why are you still going on?forget it
    comon sense is not a COMON THING,IN SAXP-
21. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #21 14th July 2006, 16:59

    I did help, as thats the only reply you have typed in plain english, well done.
22. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #22 14th July 2006, 17:02

    haha you talk about lack of common sense (note spelling of common) then proceed to type like Timmay from South Park? I understand about 10% of every post you type and that's being kind. From the little i did manage to translate you say you want to turbo your furio yet baulk at the cost of a gearbox and clutch change? Welcome to the real world where things actually cost money