problem after problem headgasket or turbo

1. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #1 19th October 2011, 16:20

   hi i have a vts thats just undergone a turbo covnversion
   
   The problem is its kicking out loads of white smoke that stinks of fuel
   
   the turbo is a gt25 second hand water and oil cooled
   
   when i did the conversion it had a new head gasket on to
   
   now at the moment the car is not mapped so it overfueling running at 11.9 afr that might acount for the smell of unburnt fuel ?
   
   the question is how can i tell if its the head gasket thats leaking or if the turbo is , i dont want to take the head of if its not that
   
   or if its because of unburnt fuel
   
   head up my arse over this well gutted any help would be great
   
   thanks
2. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #2 19th October 2011, 16:53

   What makes you think its the head gasket? Is it losing water or oil?
3. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #3 19th October 2011, 17:03

   looks like water smoke , but not a hundred % sure as its not pure white, but i thought if it was burning oil it would be darker
4. user_40189 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Hampshire Posts: 2152 Furi0

   #4 19th October 2011, 17:11

   white smoke means oil mate.
   
   black smoke is petrol
5. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #5 19th October 2011, 17:13

   Could be condesation?
   
   Does it do it after a decent run or just on start up?
   
   Running unmapped isn't going to help things!
6. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #6 19th October 2011, 17:17

   i been looking at test kits but they only test to see if there is gases in the coolent ,
   
   it could be just leaking oil into one chamber , or the turbo seals gone,
   
   i just dont no how i can test for that i dont want to take the head of and then find out its the turbo seals that are gone
7. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #7 19th October 2011, 17:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Quick Could be condesation? Does it do it after a decent run or just on start up? Running unmapped isn't going to help things!

   
   only just built it up, its got no mot and is sorn , so can not take it out for a run
8. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #8 20th October 2011, 07:32

   should i just take the oil feed of the turbo and run it and see if the smoke clears , or is that a bad idea
9. Juggyluggs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2010 Moke's Master!!! Posts: 3434 Ibiza Formula Sport Yammy yzf r6

   #9 20th October 2011, 11:44

   is it losing water?
   is the oil level ok?
   
   If it was a headgasket problem the smoke would be white
   if it was burning oil it would be blue smoke
   if it's not burning fuel then it's black
   
   
   have you had the turbo checked out as that is easier to remove than the head on the car
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 20th October 2011, 13:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Petee white smoke means oil mate. black smoke is petrol

    Blue smoke is oil, white is coolant, brake fluid or condensation
11. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #11 20th October 2011, 16:16

    hi been back to start car its blue smoke
    the longer it runs the worse it gets, took the header cap of the rad to see if im loosing water and see if it bubbles like a clip i seen on you tube and its not so i asume the head gasket is ok and its not leaking water
    
    is it safe to take the oil pipe feeding the turbo of and run it to see if its the turbo thats goosed