Wishbone rear mounts?

24th October 2011, 23:08

I've just spotted that AwesomeGTi do the Vibra technics mounts for a couple quid less than the Spoox ones PLUS AwesomeGTi is only up the road from me.

Anyone got any experience with either or both.

I guess I'd like to know if they are worth the rather large chunk of my remaining budget or if the standards are not too dissimilar?

24th October 2011, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

I've just spotted that AwesomeGTi do the Vibra technics mounts for a couple quid less than the Spoox ones PLUS AwesomeGTi is only up the road from me.

Anyone got any experience with either or both.

I guess I'd like to know if they are worth the rather large chunk of my remaining budget or if the standards are not too dissimilar?

Spoox ones are vibra technics ones with the spoox sticker on.

24th October 2011, 23:24

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Originally Posted by bedford126

Spoox ones are vibra technics ones with the spoox sticker on.

This is the same with the engine mounts aswel iirc

24th October 2011, 23:28

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Originally Posted by rorz_vts

This is the same with the engine mounts aswel iirc

Yeah your right most of the Spoox products are made by other company's with the Spoox logo or sticker added after manufacturing.

25th October 2011, 06:16

Imo this is literally the best mod you can do
miles better than a lower brace

Stops castor changes under hard braking accelerating and keeps things a lot straighter when you do brake hard cause things like the toe angles are suddenly effected when your wheels move backwards in the arch cause the rear bush flexes the front acts as a pivot and the wheels swing back

very worthwhile mod but you can get away with standard items quite happily unless your stamping on 4 pots with sticky tyres but even on cheap tyres youll feel the difference in it all

25th October 2011, 09:17

Thanks guys. I thought they looked VERY similar!

I'll have a tot up later and see what budget I've got left then. Don't suppose anyone knows of any going cheap and are they as difficult as some people make out to fit?

25th October 2011, 09:46

Alan I'll try and find you a link to the poly bush ones as I've only heard good then bad things about these as they die fairly quickly

25th October 2011, 11:32

Easy to fit, its harder to remove the old mounts though.

25th October 2011, 13:12

i happen to have a set of wishbones with powerflex fronts and these on the back up for grabs alan lol
pm me if you fancy

25th October 2011, 14:09

Tempted but I've got a set of the fronts now inn a set of wishbones but the ball joints are split so I'm going to transfer the fronts into the old wishbones (the old ones are in pretty good nick to be fair) I was just wondering weather it's worth getting the rears done while I've got them off.

25th October 2011, 20:13

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Originally Posted by rorz_vts

Alan I'll try and find you a link to the poly bush ones as I've only heard good then bad things about these as they die fairly quickly

I know there was some similar looking ones in circulation a few years ago that had a habit of dying fairly quickly. Still don't know if they are the same as the Vibra-Technics ones though. I have a feeling the ones that died quite quickly used nylon inserts as opposed to rubber?

If anyone can shed any light on the above, then please post up. According to Vibra-Technics, their rear wishbone bushes should have a greater life expectancy than standard items, and have 5 times the load capacity.

IIRC, the Polybush ones are ~£120 delivered. £106 from Vibra-Technics for theirs.

25th October 2011, 21:56

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Originally Posted by LeeumH

I know there was some similar looking ones in circulation a few years ago that had a habit of dying fairly quickly. Still don't know if they are the same as the Vibra-Technics ones though. I have a feeling the ones that died quite quickly used nylon inserts as opposed to rubber?

If anyone can shed any light on the above, then please post up. According to Vibra-Technics, their rear wishbone bushes should have a greater life expectancy than standard items, and have 5 times the load capacity.

IIRC, the Polybush ones are ~£120 delivered. £106 from Vibra-Technics for theirs.

im not sure if it was these ones you mean but i do know of an old type of bush (i cant remember who made them though) which id heard had stop being made were totally nylon and bolted up like the spoox/vibratecniks ones

they had a fatal flaw in the bolts would pull through the nylon meaning the back end of the wishbone would come totally free from the car

the alloy spoox ones are a lot better in design than these

ive seen some poly race ones ive seen are of a different construction and dont look like they would fail

seem similar to the genuine pug sport items in construction and they dont have any problems

25th October 2011, 22:16

I'm sure I saw a photo of them on someones thread last year or something. The full nylon type that is.

Do think the spoox/vibratechnics ones look like they would take a fair bit of stick!

I might keep an eye out for a set or get some new for christmas

lol

They deffo seem to be a good upgrade though from what has been said on here and other sites i've looked at.

2nd November 2011, 01:22

If you can find some AX brackets off a Mk1, you can fit the AX Mk1 polybush rear bushes but the brackets are rocking horse.

6th November 2011, 15:16

the full nylon ones were made by Shenpar iirc... the design was only flawed by people overtightening them and splitting the plastic... they also wore quite quickly but they were designed as a cheap disposible part for there rally cars.. not a road car that expected 1000`s of miles out of them....

10th November 2011, 12:14

I use vibratechnics rear mounts. They are not the same as my old spoox ones. The vibra ones have small rubber insert too. Will post a few pix later.

10th November 2011, 13:35

Wheres best to buy the vibra technics ones from??

10th November 2011, 14:16

Vibra technic

Id try set a group buy up really, coming to xmas its something to put on the list to Satan claws

10th November 2011, 14:26

I'd be up for a group buy.

I got quoted £106.20 posted from Vibratechnics for a pair.

10th November 2011, 14:30

As opposed to?

Some non oe wishbones have issues fitting them.

10th November 2011, 16:50

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Originally Posted by slammed106

the full nylon ones were made by Shenpar iirc... the design was only flawed by people overtightening them and splitting the plastic... they also wore quite quickly but they were designed as a cheap disposible part for there rally cars.. not a road car that expected 1000`s of miles out of them....

the truth is that no one in their right mind would make a bracket for suspension from nylon which by its nature is going to squish when you tighten up a 10mm bolt through it --what they should have done was have a metal spacer inside the bolt holes to allow only so much squish --but a silly idea anyway .
saw one set and never even consdiered fitting them
the vibra tecnics are good -use them all the time .
i used them on my wide track,but with a bolt in the end so i can set them at correctangle when car is on its wheels --so there is no wind up in the bush when car is at its normal ride height --something to bear in mind when fitting them --that is the usual reason for these bushs to fail prematurely ,not just vibra tchnics type ,but all inc std ones

thats why very lowered cars suddenly have bush failure --very wound up after suspension is lowered,even when car is just sat --
i will take at bet that most people tighten the front bolt on the lower arm while the car is in the air --loading up the front bush as well

10th November 2011, 17:04

AwesomeGTi are doing the vibra-technics ones for about £40 each. I only live 20 minutes away so would pick them up, thus saving on postage too.

The spoox ones, I'd have to pay for postage AND they are about £45 each.

My thinking was, if theirs no real difference, i'd get a set of the vibra-technic mounts.

axsaxoman, Your right about the tightening... I did all mine up in the air! would it be advisable to jack the car up, slacken everything off, then drop it down onto a pile of bricks so I can get under it but the suspension is in the normal ride height?

Also, what sort of issues would I have with the fitting?

10th November 2011, 17:07

Get under your car whilst rested on bricks? Don't be a twat Alan l.

Also email awesomegti, nice guy, he'll do a group biy methinks

10th November 2011, 17:13

[QUOTE=Bickerton;5652023]Don't be a twat Alan /QUOTE]

LOL... you know what I mean though. I'd actually put an axle stand under the ball joint or something to get the suspension sat at the right height but with enough space for my gut to fit under it

If I had a 4 post lift or a pit, I'd use that but i don't

yet!

10th November 2011, 17:33

as promised, had them on over a year must of done 2-3,000 road miles and 10-12 trackdays at least.

strip old bushes down

old vs new

and then fitted

id buy them again but be aware, i bought mine direct. i met a sales rep at a show and was given a discount code, the price i was told on the phone was £40 cheaper than what i actually paid once i got my bank statement through!

rang them back and was told theres nothing they can do about it and that i was miss informed.

i also use the vibra ecu side engine mount. i think its a good bit of kit not only more firm than the standard one but the bolt shouldnt snap like the standard ones do.

10th November 2011, 17:51

Well, considering I'm looking at £80 for a pair from AwesomeGTi direct I'd know if they tried to over charge me

Were they hard to fit?

10th November 2011, 17:55

no, just a few hours in the workshop

10th November 2011, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

Well, considering I'm looking at £80 for a pair from AwesomeGTi direct I'd know if they tried to over charge me

May get them slightly cheaper if James and I order some too?

In all seriousness, if someone wants to organise a group buy on these, I'm in.

I understand it's best to press these on at the angle the wishbones are with the car sitting on the wheels. How would you go about doing this?

10th November 2011, 18:16

By looking under your car

10th November 2011, 18:23

So doing it by eye is the only way?

10th November 2011, 18:25

I guess it's would be a guestimate anyway. Don't think it would make much difference if they are fitted a few degrees out?

10th November 2011, 18:27

Could reach under and mark the bush and wishbone with a linr of chalk?

11th November 2011, 16:39

Right guy's, Been in touch with AwesomeGTi about a group buy. The boss man's off today but as soon as the guy I spoke to can find out if they'll do one, i'll let you all know

12th November 2011, 19:27

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Originally Posted by LeeumH

I understand it's best to press these on at the angle the wishbones are with the car sitting on the wheels. How would you go about doing this?

when i fitted my pugsport ones i used a spirit level and a tape measure with the car on caravan ramps
get the spirit level packed up on stands under the wisbones level
measure the front bush and as close to the balljoint and mark the point you measured on the wishbone

the difference in these measurements is the important bit so say for example its 15mm higher at the front bush

get the rear bush off the wishbone
and on a bench sit the wishbone ball joint hanging over the edge of the bench so it doesnt interfere pack the point you measured 15mm off the bench and offer the rear bush up
mark both bush and wishbone with a pen and then line these marks up when you press the wishbone on

simple process long explanation lol

12th November 2011, 19:54

Group buys never work.....ordered mine...£88 delivered.

12th November 2011, 22:07

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Originally Posted by J222JRA

Group buys never work.....ordered mine...£88 delivered.

Whatever James.... You just bought gaz coilies in a group buy you modtard...

12th November 2011, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Bickerton

Whatever James.... You just bought gaz coilies in a group buy you modtard...

Ok, group buys on here dont work membertard

12th November 2011, 23:14

You order them from awesomegti?

I want to collect mine, saving on the postage

12th November 2011, 23:56

Alan its free postage from Awesome GTI lol.

12th November 2011, 23:57

13th November 2011, 00:00

It's not

13th November 2011, 00:05

T'is

13th November 2011, 00:10

Free postage on all orders on Uk Mainland.

13th November 2011, 00:14

Sod's law isn't it! The one time I get free delivery the shop is ten miles away !lol.

13th November 2011, 01:36

Buy a Full set!

http://www.shop.pug1off.com/product_...roducts_id/629

13th November 2011, 11:34

Well, I've got all the other bushes

13th November 2011, 16:57

i ve send then a email whith no response...

i want the whishbone ones look nice ..

13th November 2011, 17:04

Maybe its closed

13th November 2011, 17:23

Solvi, Did you email AwesomeGTi or Pug1off?

I'm waiting to see about the AwesomeGTi group buy at the minute and details will be up as soon as I get a response.

13th November 2011, 19:48

no i ve emailed vibratecnics...

ist the group buy for the vibratecniucs whishbone monts???
i think they have also competicion or road type to choose i d prefer the comp ones

if group buy , im intrested

16th November 2011, 18:06

They can't do a group buy.

Never mind, their still pretty cheap and they do free UK shipping as well. I might order some for Christmas

16th November 2011, 18:21

£88 is cheap as fuck, get them ordered.

21st November 2011, 13:08

i want some...

dont think they are cheap but look damm good!!

so the saxo , go to painting and chassis care....indigo blue outside, white inside and motor bay etc

and WHAT is A L-plater???? someone explAin me???

21st November 2011, 13:11

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Originally Posted by solvi

and WHAT is A L-plater???? someone explAin me???

your an l plater as you have below 100 posts
As your postcount grow that changes to show how much you use te forum

Im a sad cunt so ive got lots of posts and that makes me *hardcore*

21st November 2011, 13:16

thank for info alex...
i ll continue to post ....

26th November 2011, 12:57

ill have to get myself some of these.

26th November 2011, 17:56

ive got the new demon tweeks cat come through today, they offer vibratechnics mounts, take a look online for prices etc...