HELP NEEDED mk1 vtr!!!

1. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #1 2nd November 2011, 16:01

   i have a 98 mk1 vtr (black top) when i first start it and the temperature is cold it struggles to pull away. when the temperature gauge reads half way it drives fine but stuters on 3.5k -5k rpm
   
   ive changed the plugs leads look new so does the coilpack
   
   water isnt mixing with oil but it smokes alot on startup from cold
   
   i have also tried another lambda sensor
2. user_44477 Established Member Joined: May 2010 rotherham Posts: 1813 2001 Citroen saxo furio.

   #2 2nd November 2011, 16:19

   mines same mate, especially with the cold weather. Dread winter for that reason.

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3. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #3 2nd November 2011, 16:21

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   Originally Posted by leeham987 mines same mate, especially with the cold weather. Dread winter for that reason.

   it used to okay only started doing it the other day when i start it first thing in the morning i have to build the revs up to 2.5 to pull away slowly
4. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #4 2nd November 2011, 16:24

   lambda?
   
   edit: check the coil and leads anyway. my old coilpack looked perfect on the outside, but was completely fucked

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5. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #5 2nd November 2011, 19:04

   Try also the coolant temp sensor & the air temp sensor mate.
6. user_44477 Established Member Joined: May 2010 rotherham Posts: 1813 2001 Citroen saxo furio.

   #6 2nd November 2011, 19:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by sam_8v it used to okay only started doing it the other day when i start it first thing in the morning i have to build the revs up to 2.5 to pull away slowly

   damn! mines not that bad, just doesn't like the cold weather, sometimes stalls if i set of straight from cold.
   
   if you manage to get it fixed, post it on here.
7. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #7 2nd November 2011, 19:34

   I would try the coolant temp sensor if its just from cold like steve said
8. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #8 2nd November 2011, 21:20

   ive got a spare temp sensor, il try that tomorrow. didnt realise the coolant temp sensor could affect the running of a car?
9. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #9 2nd November 2011, 22:55

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   Originally Posted by sam_8v ive got a spare temp sensor, il try that tomorrow. didnt realise the coolant temp sensor could affect the running of a car?

   Yeah all the sensors around the engine can,because they send info back to the ecu.

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10. jerry0503222 Newbie Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8

    #10 3rd November 2011, 09:45

    lambda?
    
    edit: check the coil and leads anyway. my old coilpack looked perfect on the outside, but was completely fucked
    
    
    
    
    
    
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11. ads85 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Bradford on Avon,Nr Bath Posts: 866 '01 astra coupe

    #11 3rd November 2011, 10:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jerry0503222 lambda? edit: check the coil and leads anyway. my old coilpack looked perfect on the outside, but was completely fucked

    I don't mean to be funny but why re-post something that has already been said??
    
    Hey Sam you don't have any luck do you mate?, does it smoke all the time now or just when cold?
12. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #12 3rd November 2011, 11:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ads85 I don't mean to be funny but why re-post something that has already been said?? Hey Sam you don't have any luck do you mate?, does it smoke all the time now or just when cold?

    no i dont mate not when it comes to cars
    
    yeah it only does it when cold smoked mcdonalds car park out the other day when tonto and that were there
13. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #13 3rd November 2011, 11:20

    What colour smoke??
14. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #14 3rd November 2011, 11:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quick What colour smoke??

    white mate i was thinking maybe stem seals
15. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #15 3rd November 2011, 15:25

    changed both sensors aand its still no different got a mate to plug it in to his diag tool and its the ecu at fault
16. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #16 3rd November 2011, 15:55

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    Originally Posted by leeham987 damn! mines not that bad, just doesn't like the cold weather, sometimes stalls if i set of straight from cold. if you manage to get it fixed, post it on here.

    i unplugged one and it did the same as yours it was the one nearest the thermostat
    
    now my ecu is fucked car wont start and eml is constant flash
17. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #17 3rd November 2011, 15:59

    How much smoke? Does said smoke stink of fuel?
18. henryvtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 175

    #18 3rd November 2011, 22:08

    My car was missing every now and then till one day it was spluttering and stalling, had a go at a few different sensors, turned out to be map sensor, the one on the inlet mani, couldn't believe it, only £30 from gsf,
19. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #19 3rd November 2011, 23:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 How much smoke? Does said smoke stink of fuel?

    yeah i does really bad