Help! Engine swap?!

1. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

   #1 18th November 2011, 13:50

   Hi guys!
   
   I've given up on the gti track car, so instead I'm thinking of putting the engine in my vtr. Although I've been looking Around the forum To find out what it exactly is that I need and people are saying that I should get the 16v conversion parts from the same year as the car I'm putting it into. Basically I want to know if I can take all the necessary parts from the gti bring an r reg and if I will have any problems fitting them to the x reg vtr (bearing in mind that the gti is 1 plug and the vtr is 3)
   
   Help? I'm mega confused.
   
   Cheers, Shannon.
2. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #2 18th November 2011, 17:10

   what's wrong with the gti?
3. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

   #3 18th November 2011, 17:20

   Nothing lol
4. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

   #4 18th November 2011, 18:08

   Bump...
5. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

   #5 19th November 2011, 07:39

   To the top! Still need some advice!
6. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

   #6 19th November 2011, 11:34

   Someone's gotta know?
7. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #7 19th November 2011, 11:53

   yes you'll have loom problems
8. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #8 19th November 2011, 19:20

   The r reg 106 loom.wont fit any saxo at all
   
   It has 2 plugs to the interior loom wjere as all saxos have one which varies in size
   So youll need to rewire that end of the loom with your vtr plug
   
   Or get an appropriate vts loom however w,x,y reg cars are all changeover and they seem to be a mash of some late parts and whatever early parts they had left in the factory so looms on them become nightmares as one end will be 3 plug stuff the other single and sensors/injectors ect are a pain too
9. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

   #9 19th November 2011, 19:38

   X reg VTR has the Single Plug ECU with the larger Multi-Plug next to the passengers side headlight. Otherwise known as one very rare loom!
   
   I searched the web for 6 months, went through various scrap yards, and I couldn't get hold of one!
10. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

    #10 20th November 2011, 10:44

    Great! Not what I wanted to hear Dom my vtr ecu is 3 plug, not 1? Looks like the track project shall continue. Thanks for the help guys!
11. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #11 20th November 2011, 10:50

    The loom will need splicing at the interior plugs as mentioned but i wouldnt let it put you off. If you dont fancy doing it yourself theres plenty of people and companies that will do it for you.
12. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

    #12 20th November 2011, 10:53

    All just sounds like alot of trouble, the only reason I was going to do it was because I have the whole car lol so, I thought it would have been cheaper! Lol
13. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #13 20th November 2011, 13:15

    i'm sure you could just swap the interior loom from the gti iirc don't hold me to it as i've not done this myself
14. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

    #14 20th November 2011, 14:40

    That's what I thought mate as I have the whole car that I can take parts from!!