Problem with new icv

1. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #1 2nd December 2011, 18:52

   hi just fitted a brand new icv and the revs sit at 2k for about 10 sec when first start engine then drop to tickover. but when i drive a few miles and pull up to something the revs drop fast and start bouncing below 1k just about stalling. i got it off ebay wasnt that cheap either got 12 month warrany on it. has anyone else ever seen this problem with a new one? this car is doin my head in now
2. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #2 2nd December 2011, 19:12

   it might be worth re setting the ecu mate leave the battery off for 30 mins then try again
3. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #3 2nd December 2011, 19:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsmad it might be worth re setting the ecu mate leave the battery off for 30 mins then try again

   ok ill give a try, i thought about it after fitting it but didnt bother because when i fitted the old one after cleaning it all i had to do was turn ignition off then was fine or same as it was. i also fitted another map sensor off another vtr different part number to origonal though, could this affect the new icv? it seemed fine on old one.
4. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #4 2nd December 2011, 19:22

   did you initialize the new icv? ( turn the ignition on and off slowly 6 times then start it up on the 7th ) that sets it up in the correct position
5. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #5 2nd December 2011, 19:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte did you initialize the new icv? ( turn the ignition on and off slowly 6 times then start it up on the 7th ) that sets it up in the correct position

   i didnt know that. so is it 6 times up or 6 both ways? cheers
6. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #6 2nd December 2011, 19:28

   turn the key on all the way but don't start it up and leave it for a few seconds then turn off leave a few seconds, do that 6 times then start it up on the 7th time and it should hopefully idle how its supposed to.
7. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #7 2nd December 2011, 19:30

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   Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte turn the key on all the way but don't start it up and leave it for a few seconds then turn off leave a few seconds, do that 6 times then start it up on the 7th time and it should hopefully idle how its supposed to.

   thanks for that info ill be tryin it first thing. i take it you had this problem before then? did you get your idling problem sorted in the end?
8. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

   #8 2nd December 2011, 19:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte did you initialize the new icv? ( turn the ignition on and off slowly 6 times then start it up on the 7th ) that sets it up in the correct position

   
   +1. Had to do this to mine after fitting.
9. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #9 2nd December 2011, 19:38

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   Originally Posted by bosax +1. Had to do this to mine after fitting.

   was yours a new one off ebay? just want to make sure i aint bought a pile of shite.
10. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #10 2nd December 2011, 19:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann thanks for that info ill be tryin it first thing. i take it you had this problem before then? did you get your idling problem sorted in the end?

    Yeah I had a problem with mine for ages, may be a bit different to yours but it used to randomly rev itself and when turning the car off when warm then starting it back up say at a petrol station, the revs used to bounce up and down from about 500-1000rpm. Sorted it in the end with an original icv from ebay was 60 quid but well worth it, wish i had found out sooner must of spent about 100 quid on bits that i didnt need lol.
11. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #11 2nd December 2011, 19:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte Yeah I had a problem with mine for ages, may be a bit different to yours but it used to randomly rev itself and when turning the car off when warm then starting it back up say at a petrol station, the revs used to bounce up and down from about 500-1000rpm. Sorted it in the end with an original icv from ebay was 60 quid but well worth it, wish i had found out sooner must of spent about 100 quid on bits that i didnt need lol.

    you got an original one. did you get a cheaper one first and it not work? mine cost 40 quid part number b31/00, was there a part number on yours.
12. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #12 2nd December 2011, 19:50

    Yep, £20 one from ebay........been great so far.
13. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #13 2nd December 2011, 19:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann you got an original one. did you get a cheaper one first and it not work? mine cost 40 quid part number b31/00, was there a part number on yours.

    Yeah this is the cheaper one I tried, part number A96159, they sent me one that didnt work at all, sent that back for a replacement, tried the replacement and that worked for about 10 minutes until the end of the shaft part actually fell off in my inlet manifold lol! ended up just buying the original one which sorted it.
    
    The one that didn't work:
    
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Idle-a...item3ca9e6c298
    
    The one that works:
    
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Sa...item2a02ae6491
    
    Kinda expensive but sorted it out so i'm happy
14. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #14 2nd December 2011, 20:11

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    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte Yeah this is the cheaper one I tried, part number A96159, they sent me one that didnt work at all, sent that back for a replacement, tried the replacement and that worked for about 10 minutes until the end of the shaft part actually fell off in my inlet manifold lol! ended up just buying the original one which sorted it. The one that didn't work: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Idle-a...item3ca9e6c298 The one that works: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Sa...item2a02ae6491 Kinda expensive but sorted it out so i'm happy

    
    think mine is from the same company as the first one. ill be givin it a try tomorrow see if it works, gettin sent back if dont and back to usin the old one can only get to 5 thousand revs with it.
    
    thanks for the help mate
15. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #15 2nd December 2011, 20:18

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    Originally Posted by vtrmann think mine is from the same company as the first one. ill be givin it a try tomorrow see if it works, gettin sent back if dont and back to usin the old one can only get to 5 thousand revs with it. thanks for the help mate

    No worries, hopefully it will work for you I may have just had bad luck with them give it a try anyway
16. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #16 2nd December 2011, 20:37

    cheers ill let ya know what happens
17. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #17 3rd December 2011, 14:24

    i tried the things you guys said and its made no differnce still revin high and stalling. i"ll be sending the part back and gettin the genuine one that saxoforte said. thats cheaply made shit off ebay for ya, only 20 quid more for genuine one.
18. bigdazza Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 colchester essex Posts: 155 Saxo vtr with vts conversion :)

    #18 4th December 2011, 22:35

    Iv had this problem with mine, I brought a new icv from euro car part, it sorted the high revs out, but now the revs drop quite low ! My old one was a b31-00 ( part number ) bit this new is a different part number, both are made by the same company... Would this make a difference ?? Does it need to be the exact identicle part number ?
19. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #19 5th December 2011, 09:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigdazza Iv had this problem with mine, I brought a new icv from euro car part, it sorted the high revs out, but now the revs drop quite low ! My old one was a b31-00 ( part number ) bit this new is a different part number, both are made by the same company... Would this make a difference ?? Does it need to be the exact identicle part number ?

    id stick with the same part number but they might be the same. my map sensor not same number and works fine. the one i got not even got a part number on it just on the box it came in. theres a link to the right genuine one above see if number matches
20. bigdazza Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 colchester essex Posts: 155 Saxo vtr with vts conversion :)

    #20 5th December 2011, 14:59

    Just took mine bk and got another one , it was the only one they had.... Guess what, it was the one that you said didnt work so I was little miffed that that was the only one there. Anyway, it works !!! So im happy haha.
21. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #21 5th December 2011, 15:18

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    Originally Posted by bigdazza Just took mine bk and got another one , it was the only one they had.... Guess what, it was the one that you said didnt work so I was little miffed that that was the only one there. Anyway, it works !!! So im happy haha.

    glad its worked for ya, i didnt fancy swappin it for another one for same to happen again and time wasted. the guy from parts place said they make and sell thousands of them and 99.9% of them are ok doesnt look that way to me. the cone on the end is a differnt shape slightly aswel i noticed.
22. bigdazza Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 colchester essex Posts: 155 Saxo vtr with vts conversion :)

    #22 5th December 2011, 15:20

    The very first one I brought from had already been used lol... At least its sorted.... Till the next fault lol.
23. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #23 5th December 2011, 15:23

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    Originally Posted by bigdazza The very first one I brought from had already been used lol... At least its sorted.... Till the next fault lol.

    yea lol it wont be long i doubt. mine seems to want to piss me about near christmas time. was same last year. ive learnt a lot from it though.
24. bigdazza Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 colchester essex Posts: 155 Saxo vtr with vts conversion :)

    #24 5th December 2011, 15:45

    Lmao, I don't think I've ever had a bonnet up so much in my life ! The car is near mint, I love it, if it weren't that way I would of cut my loses a while bk, and to be fair, they don't really cost a fortune to fix.
25. bigdazza Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 colchester essex Posts: 155 Saxo vtr with vts conversion :)

    #25 5th December 2011, 18:15

    Lol, quick question... What size are the bolts that hold the icv onto the unit on a vts ??? Iv just chewed mine up where can i get them...