Important! : Help asap..engine rattling after oil change today

17th December 2011, 18:45

Changed my oil today and now when idleing its rattling....rev and it goes away.....

need for car for work tomorrow at 5am so need help now please

THANK YOU

17th December 2011, 18:46

What oil have you put in?, what engine?

17th December 2011, 18:47

Talk us through what you did when you filled it back up with oil. How much oil did you add before starting the car?

17th December 2011, 18:53

Mobil super 2000 10/40...saxi vtr

drained all oil replace oil filter, filled up with oil till on max, started engine and refilled to max again :-\

17th December 2011, 18:54

whats the oil level like now?

17th December 2011, 18:57

paper element type filter i guess? if so, was it a recognised brand as they have caused a lot of trouble in the past by restricting oil flow, not so much on saxos but certainly on c2/c3's

17th December 2011, 18:59

Im actually in the cinema right now! heard it on the way here....think its not enough oil in?

17th December 2011, 19:03

What film you gone to see?

17th December 2011, 19:04

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Im actually in the cinema right now! heard it on the way here....think its not enough oil in?

If you checked the oil dipstick and its full then its obvs not it. Get off your phone thats naughty

17th December 2011, 19:04

Yea paper filter....cant remember brand but i seen the name around

Dont want to drive it now

17th December 2011, 19:07

Arthet christmas.....gf is gay

17th December 2011, 19:07

Dont blame it on your gf

Anyone sitting behind you? That can see you on your phone?

17th December 2011, 19:11

Ha ;-) back to subject....what shal i do

17th December 2011, 19:11

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Arthet christmas.....gf is gay

Playing on your phone while in there with your gf..id be getting smelly fingers tbf.

17th December 2011, 19:15

Check the oil level again when you go out there, how bad is it tapping?

17th December 2011, 19:17

Thats not helping me :-\

17th December 2011, 19:22

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Thats not helping me :-\

Well what do you want us to do drive and fix it, id do it for pics of...

17th December 2011, 19:28

Helpful advice

17th December 2011, 19:45

If the oil is low shall i fill it up? or is this going to make it worse

17th December 2011, 19:50

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

If the oil is low shall i fill it up? or is this going to make it worse

Well what would common sense tell you?

17th December 2011, 19:51

No, take some more out.

17th December 2011, 19:53

Well mandy said oil filter could be stoppjing oil flow....so its all there still

17th December 2011, 20:03

How long did your oil light take to go out? A lad I worked with bought a classic cavalier 130 mk2 (was a classic to him anyway) he dropped the oil and filter, fitted new filter and filled the oil up, started it up and after a roadtest came back knocking its tits off.
Dropped the sump off and the big ends were toast.
The old thick crap oil was keeping it quiet.

Has yours been well serviced? I had a 406 diesel that was like that, used to tap its nuts off the top end when the oil was changed. Needed new followers but it settled down after good run then it would be fine until serviced again.

17th December 2011, 20:32

Just checked oil....its up to max:-\ any help

17th December 2011, 20:34

Oil light went out within a few seconds mate

17th December 2011, 20:36

Also been driving around all day no problem its just started tonight

17th December 2011, 20:41

tapping is just a sign the engine is working well. if it starts knocking too you know you're onto a winner

17th December 2011, 20:43

Hmmmmm

17th December 2011, 20:51

Upload a video if possible.

17th December 2011, 20:54

if it was mine I'd drive it home and pull the filter out, refit the housing and see if it sounds any different. But if there was going to have been any damage it may already have done it. They are quite a rattly engine.

Or the other thing I'd do would be to kick its arse all the way home and see if it gets any louder.
I've had rovers do this, my mate work for a rover dealer and said they put engine flush in them and take them for a good spanking. After about a mile it threw a rod out the block lol!
Kill or cure that's what I say!

17th December 2011, 21:19

Well its not doing all the time, if i move my steering wheel it seems to go away :-\....had a new wishbone and rear caliper and handbrake cable put on last week maybe its something to dowith that....but there has been no rattleall week

17th December 2011, 21:29

Its so difficult to diagnose a noise on a forum. Does it tap when your stood still at idle, or is it when its under load at a certain rpm.

And your sure it didn't do this before you changed the oil?

17th December 2011, 21:34

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Well mandy said oil filter could be stoppjing oil flow....so its all there still

I`d agree with Mandyslover70 its your oil filter restricting the oil flow,so you`ve got low oil pressure which is why the engine is rattling.

17th December 2011, 21:58

Noise is at idle.....if its the oil filter what shall i do? and if its low presure will something on my dash come up

17th December 2011, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Cam

Playing on your phone while in there with your gf..id be getting smelly fingers tbf.

are you incinuating his gf has a gammy clam ? Lol....

17th December 2011, 22:07

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Noise is at idle.....if its the oil filter what shall i do? and if its low presure will something on my dash come up

You drain out the oil into a bucket & fit a quality oil filter then top the oil up.

17th December 2011, 22:17

Im going to hatve a proper look in the morning, hopefully just something loose :-\

what else

18th December 2011, 12:40

It sounds like it coming from the driverside arch not the actual engine :-\

any ideas

18th December 2011, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1400

If the oil is low shall i fill it up? or is this going to make it worse

check your oil level. sounds like you aint put enough in...

18th December 2011, 18:09

Its 100% at max on the dipstick :-\ might have to go to a garage

18th December 2011, 18:45

Post up a vid... only takes few minutes to do

18th December 2011, 20:13

Its not actually doing it all the time...and when it does if i move my steering wheel or go forward slightly it goes away :-\

18th December 2011, 20:50

sounds like its bugger all to do with the engine then

18th December 2011, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1400

Well its not doing all the time, if i move my steering wheel it seems to go away :-\....had a new wishbone and rear caliper and handbrake cable put on last week maybe its something to dowith that....but there has been no rattleall week

Pop the carpet up & see if the wishbone nuts have been done up tightly.

18th December 2011, 21:48

Good idea, i only said engine as i have had the work done for over a week now and all been well but the second i have changed oil something started rattling

18th December 2011, 21:57

have you left anything under the bonnet when you done the oil change and its still rolling around in the scuttle area or on the inner wing?

18th December 2011, 22:21

no i did actually check for that! thanks for the help anyway

19th December 2011, 00:31

Could be the alternator belt slipping, or something along those lines?

19th December 2011, 00:38

Doesn't sound like the engine then, just something loose that's knockign when you have the idle vibration, pull the arch liner back and check for ANY loose bolts etc, my exhaust used to rattle on the back bumper and i had no idea what it was until i walked aroudn the car while it was on and heard it

simple things sometimes!

19th December 2011, 00:44

going to have to jack it up tomorrow and see whats what i guess......hopefully just a loose bolt/trim

19th December 2011, 00:46

Give everything a good check over, it could just be that with the new oil you're engines running a bit better so you might have some new noises coming from certain places from vibrations etc. But like MandysLover's said it could be the oil filter, id change it for a better quality one just for peace of mind, they're not too expensive.

19th December 2011, 00:48

A failed upper engine mount on the drivers side of the car can sometimes cause some weird nosies too.

19th December 2011, 00:59

how much to replace the mount (if it is that)

19th December 2011, 13:40

Right took it back to the garage and they said because the wishbone has been replaced i need to have the tracking done, this is causing the noise :-\ sound right

19th December 2011, 17:56

mmmm are they Red Indians at this garage, is their leader call Big Chief Talking Bollocks??? Never known tracking to cause a rattling noise, perchance porkies are being spoken

19th December 2011, 20:45

Well now i have this new wishbone....i have to turn the wheel slightly to go in a stright line if you get me so im guessing the tracking needs doing now.....but they have looked proper and said something in the arch is loose and rattling around :-\ never going back to this garage again

20th December 2011, 01:10

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Originally Posted by tyler1400

Well now i have this new wishbone....i have to turn the wheel slightly to go in a stright line if you get me so im guessing the tracking needs doing now.....but they have looked proper and said something in the arch is loose and rattling around :-\ never going back to this garage again

So why did you use them again? Should have just gone somewhere else mate and they'd have diagnosed it and fixed it properly.