Vts conversion problem

1. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

   #1 28th December 2011, 21:07

   Tried searching but cant find what im looking for.
   Right i have a vts ecu with immobilizer, pickup ring, 2 keys and barrel. The car still Doesnt fire and am pretty sure everything is right and it comes down to the ecu side of things. There isnt no spark but fuel is being pumped round. Has anyone got any ideas as to what i could be wrong? Sorry if my explaining is poor im just tired lol
   Any help will be much appreciated thanks
2. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #2 28th December 2011, 21:14

   So you don't have the immobilizer key flashing on the dash? - so it's not locked.
   
   Crank shaft sensor all good? got a spare one to try?
3. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

   #3 28th December 2011, 21:19

   Yep tried another sensor still the same. No but what i dont get is the light doesnt come on if the right immobilizer is in or one not it at all. Only comes on if i put the immobilizer from my car in. Its complicated i saw a guide to unlocking it and they say it should flash until you put the chip/key near or inside the pickup ring but it is off all the time? It weird..
4. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #4 28th December 2011, 21:37

   Was it a change of ecu meaning was it 1 pin to 3 pin or 3 pin to 1 pin?
5. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

   #5 28th December 2011, 21:39

   Crossover loom, 1 plug ecu but plugged into my plug next to the passenger light all ok
   
   And my cars a 3 plug
6. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #6 28th December 2011, 21:50

   The immobliser wiring is different on single and 3 pins. Thats why it wont start.

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7. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

   #7 28th December 2011, 22:04

   Yeh but as its a crossover loom surely the interior loom in my car would be the same as the one it came out of?
8. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

   #8 29th December 2011, 17:16

   Bump someone please help me out, im shit with wiring the pins on the vts loom dont all match up with the furio loom. Do i need to move them around? Ive got a pic if that helps
9. Beaniemoo Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Milton Keynes Posts: 1210 Yellow 106 Rallye

   #9 29th December 2011, 17:26

   Have you checked the crash switch?
10. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #10 29th December 2011, 18:02

    that cuts the fuel only doesn't it? ive pushed it in and nothing different happened
    
    here is a photo of the 2 plugs
    
    
    
    on the left is the vts engine plug and on the right is the furio interior plug, i just need to know which wires go where? looking at it from here and it doesnt seem right to me
11. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

    #11 29th December 2011, 18:27

    Your problem is, you are using a Crossover Engine loom on a 3 Plug Interior Loom.
    
    Just use the same loom? i.e. 3 Plug VTS Loom that will match up the same bits to the 3 plug Interior Loom?
12. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #12 29th December 2011, 18:47

    so on these crossover looms are the sensors for mk1 or mk2? also if i knew which wires to change around it wouldn't be so bad, only looks to me as theres 5 or 6 that need moving
13. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #13 30th December 2011, 02:02

    Splice them together mate, but as i said the immoboliser loom is different aswell so you will need to sort that out.
14. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #14 30th December 2011, 10:32

    Yeh looks like im going to have to, any one know which one goes where? Really need to find out :/
15. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #15 30th December 2011, 20:48

    bump. anyone has any experience at all with crossover looms going into a later mk2 car? did your car start fine by just plug & play?
16. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #16 31st December 2011, 16:44

    Sorted it out was a locked ecu
    And can must have been right about the immobilizer wiring different on the crossover so thinking what you said i tried my ecu in a mates quicky and didnt turn over so plugged in all the immobilizer and that and fired up so i unlocked it! Thanks cam
    
    I now have no dials apart from fuel gauge, power steering comes on 2nd click, and it is not charging the battery. Ill try another alternator and see if it works. Any one else know about the other things?
17. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #17 1st January 2012, 17:47

    Bump. done fuel return which is a pain!
    Ive got dials apart from speedo. Could some one please tell me on a vts 3 plug loom on pin 5 what number and colour the wire is?
18. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #18 3rd January 2012, 12:34

    No one can help? Anyone with a vts it would be great great help if they could get the rest of the wire numbers from this link: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=313626
19. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #19 3rd January 2012, 18:46

    Bumppp