Breathing Pipe Missing?

1. user_55471 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Stockport (Manchester) Posts: 353 MK2 Saxo 1.1

   #1 30th December 2011, 19:10

   Had a mate look at my car and where the manifold is I think at the front of the engine their is a metal plate where a tube is supposed to go, and a plastic tube on the right. He said their should be a pipe their, will try get pics tomorrow if possible...
   
   Anybody know what I mean its a MK1 1.1
   
   EDIT :
   
   
   
   Where the steel pipe is I don't have it
   
   What could this do to the engine?
2. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

   #2 30th December 2011, 21:11

   its only for manifold, wont do anything to your engine for not having one.
3. user_55471 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Stockport (Manchester) Posts: 353 MK2 Saxo 1.1

   #3 30th December 2011, 23:35

   Cheers mate, all you do is post useful shit and hold utter banter at the same time...
4. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

   #4 31st December 2011, 00:45

   cheers
5. user_54407 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Swindon Posts: 577 MGB Sebring Track (WIP), Saxo

   #5 31st December 2011, 00:47

   something to do with emmisions iirc
6. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #6 31st December 2011, 00:54

   it would cool the manifold down at a guess, but by such a minut amount it's pointless, probably brings more hot air into the engine ha.
7. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #7 31st December 2011, 01:20

   I never knew what it was for on my old car.. mine was wrapped with kitchen foil by the previous owner though coz it had a hole in it lol!
8. user_32900 North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces

   #8 31st December 2011, 14:16

   The silver pipe takes warm air off the manifold when the car first starts and pumps it through the intake to warm up the engine a bit quicker. The plastic pipes are just your air intake pipes.
   
   It won't make any difference for not having them like people have said. These are usually the pipes that are removed in favour of either a replacement induction system or just straight pipework and a performance air filter in the normal housing.
9. martin-gray Newbie Joined: Dec 2011 crawley Posts: 1 citroen saxo vtr,citroen saxo 1.1,ford escort rs t

   #9 31st December 2011, 14:22

   all that it does is just is pick up warm air from the exhaust manifold to stop the throttle body freezing in the cold weather but it doesnt really get that cold in england its more for other countrys m8 so its nothing to worrie about
10. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #10 31st December 2011, 15:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sebring something to do with emmisions iirc

    you serious?
11. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #11 31st December 2011, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sebring something to do with emmisions iirc

    are you thinking of the egr valve?
    
    As said, its probably better not to have one. The colder the air going into your engine the better
12. user_55471 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Stockport (Manchester) Posts: 353 MK2 Saxo 1.1

    #12 2nd January 2012, 01:28

    Cheers guys, some point i'm getting an induction kit so all should be good!
13. REDRUM Newbie Joined: Jan 2014 Lancs, UK Posts: 5 Saxo '97 1.1*

    #13 24th January 2014, 12:22

    Just checked mine and its missing, anyone know the diameter of pipe/duct that is needed.
    
    Mine refused to start in snow and sleet last night so wondering if it needs more hot air...
14. saxo-paddy Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2013 wakefield Posts: 246 saxo forte 2000

    #14 24th January 2014, 17:12

    ebay bud saxo cold air intake mines got a hole in but just sealed it with tape seems fine just doesnt look too good until i get another lol
15. Boyes Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Sheffield Posts: 276 Peugeot 106 GTi, Clio 172

    #15 27th January 2014, 09:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by REDRUM Just checked mine and its missing, anyone know the diameter of pipe/duct that is needed. Mine refused to start in snow and sleet last night so wondering if it needs more hot air...

    That pipe shouldn't stop it starting, your problem lies elsewhere it only assists warming up the car when it's cold & just running.
16. REDRUM Newbie Joined: Jan 2014 Lancs, UK Posts: 5 Saxo '97 1.1*

    #16 1st February 2014, 17:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Boyes That pipe shouldn't stop it starting, your problem lies elsewhere it only assists warming up the car when it's cold & just running.

    Seems my saxo forgot where to put the idle valve on idle to reset I did - ignition wait 10s, off, ignition wait 10s, off, ignition wait 10s, start and was fine!