Just tried to fit my hawk kit...

1. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

   #1 5th January 2012, 10:55

   Hi guys, just followed a guide on here about fitting a remote upgrade kit, well i slaved all that time with the awkward space, and it doesn't work, the box has power because it 'clicks' when you click the unlock/lock, and it did unlock a few times, the LED also works, but the box doesn't seem to be operating the motors, its connected to the central locking connector and everything as the guide said, cant work it out :/
   
   Any help appreciated, thanks
   Ben
2. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

   #2 5th January 2012, 11:25

   Also, just to mention that the guide said I had to crimp a white wire to number 7 wire on the connector, but there were two white wires :/ so connected the one that is just a central locking cable, the other that I didn't hook to anything is ignition 12v, but the unit already has power so why would it need it? :/ I don't get it at all
   
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3. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #3 5th January 2012, 11:27

   have you got their car specific wiring diagram or just going off their multi car diagram? if u have the car specific one u shouldnt have an issue
4. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

   #4 5th January 2012, 13:07

   No I used a guide on here, I've asked them 3 times for a diagram for my car, they have neither sent me one nor replied to any of my emails, which is annoying, anyone who fitted the kit got any suggestions?
   
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5. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #5 5th January 2012, 13:24

   I had one fitted to my saxo for 3 weeks before I ripped it out. Awful customer service and the amount of times it locked me in/ out of my car was unreal.
   
   I'd honestly recommend you go for TOAD or clifford.
6. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

   #6 5th January 2012, 13:47

   Well I've bought this one now and honestly just want it to operate the door motors lol, how did you wire it up, as there's 2 white wires
   
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7. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #7 5th January 2012, 13:50

   I had it fitted by them, and it still managed to fuck up.
8. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #8 5th January 2012, 13:56

   mines been fitted for bout 2 years had no problems what so ever. will dig out diagram they sent me. try phoning them and ask them to email u one i got a answer in bout 2 mins and had no problems
9. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #9 5th January 2012, 14:03

   remember guide now he done it a totally dofferent way to how my alarm fitter told me so no idea how to do that way sorry mate
10. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #10 5th January 2012, 14:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marcusd mines been fitted for bout 2 years had no problems what so ever. will dig out diagram they sent me. try phoning them and ask them to email u one i got a answer in bout 2 mins and had no problems

    I have mate but their customer service is shocking!! If you find a diagram could you email it to mcgrathben1@gmail.com please?
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marcusd remember guide now he done it a totally dofferent way to how my alarm fitter told me so no idea how to do that way sorry mate

    I'm prepared to patch the whole thing up and start again mate, if you got a better way
    
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11. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #11 5th January 2012, 14:55

    aint got a scanner so cant scan what i have.
12. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #12 5th January 2012, 15:21

    Oh okay lol, could you tell.me where the wires go please?
    
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13. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #13 5th January 2012, 16:17

    mine should be here in a day or so, I'll scan the diagram and put it up if you are still stuck.
14. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #14 5th January 2012, 16:35

    [QUOTE=BenM508;5737497]Also, just to mention that the guide said I had to crimp a white wire to number 7 wire on the connector, but there were two white wires :/ so connected the one that is just a central locking cable, the other that I didn't hook to anything is ignition 12v, but the unit already has power so why would it need it? :/ I don't get it at all
    
    
    Surely that must be connected?
15. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #15 5th January 2012, 16:48

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BenM508 Also, just to mention that the guide said I had to crimp a white wire to number 7 wire on the connector, but there were two white wires :/ so connected the one that is just a central locking cable, the other that I didn't hook to anything is ignition 12v, but the unit already has power so why would it need it? :/ I don't get it at all Surely that must be connected?

    Yeah, but there is a dedicated power cable, I was only told to connect 'The whit cable' to number 7 on the socket, but with there being two I had to choose, I heard someone said that I had to crimp them both to number 7, so can i just add another snap lock with the other white wire to number 7?
    
    I understand that the ignition 12v must be connected to something, but the system seems to be powered without it, just not locking and unlocking.
    
    Oh and just rang hawk but 'nobody was available' so they took my number and would ring back, still nothing lol
    
    Thanks
    Ben
16. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #16 5th January 2012, 17:12

    They did ring me back in the end, they sent me a technical sheet specifying where the wires should go, although its still unclear as there is no actual diagram on the sheet, just descriptions of where the wires ought to go
17. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #17 5th January 2012, 17:40

    Just been out in curiosity, the car will unlock with the remote if you lock the car with the key, then press lock on the remote, and then press unlock, that works, its just, you cant lock it up again, so must be a problem with the lock pulse signal, on wire number 7 at the connector, so gonna check in the morning
    
    Any tips on how to completely remove the glovebox from the car? As I was unable to earlier and it made things very awkward indeed!
    
    Thanks, Ben
18. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #18 5th January 2012, 20:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bosax mine should be here in a day or so, I'll scan the diagram and put it up if you are still stuck.

    They've sent me instructions for alarm not central locking so I'll be following this thread like a dog without a home.
19. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #19 6th January 2012, 00:04

    Then I shall reply with my findings and maybe a few pics to help you out mate
    
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20. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #20 6th January 2012, 13:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bosax They've sent me instructions for alarm not central locking so I'll be following this thread like a dog without a home.

    Ive got it working mate, my wiring connectors hadn't pierced the wire sheathing, heres a basic guide for you:
    
    Red - Number 1
    Black - Earth bolt
    Yellow - Earth bolt
    Yellow/Black - Earth bolt
    White (NOT IGNITION WHITE) - Number 7
    White/Black - Number 5
    
    I mounted the LED in one of the switch blanks on the centre console, which you can just drill through, then I hid all the wiring under the glovebox and stuck the HAWK box to the back of the glovebox, has a good range actually, im impressed after the time it took lol!
    
    Hope this helps, if you need any more help, pm me
    
    Thanks
    Ben
21. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #21 6th January 2012, 14:09

    Cheers, doing mine the weekend. I'll be soldering mine together, got another led from Maplins and they'll replace the door pins.
22. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #22 6th January 2012, 15:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bosax Cheers, doing mine the weekend. I'll be soldering mine together, got another led from Maplins and they'll replace the door pins.

    Sounds good, post some pics up when its done I'm gonna do my hazards at some point, wonder if you can get the hazard button out without removing the centre console from the dash? hmmm
23. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #23 6th January 2012, 15:12

    Removing the centre console takes a couple of minutes mate.
24. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #24 6th January 2012, 15:46

    Ah right, just read its only 5 screws, does my stereo need to come out first or can I just remove the whole thing lol
    
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25. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #25 7th January 2012, 12:37

    Fitted the Hawk and all is well Started to rain before I could depin it though so I left the LED wire where I could get at it.
26. BenM508 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Grantham/Lincolnshire Posts: 297 2002 Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1

    #26 8th January 2012, 00:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bosax Fitted the Hawk and all is well Started to rain before I could depin it though so I left the LED wire where I could get at it.

    Well done mate, its easy once you know where everything goes isn't it
    
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27. carllos Newbie Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1

    #27 7th May 2012, 20:20

    hi i have tried to wire this as you have described but still have no joy if you can help i would be very greatfull many thanks carl.
28. user_49404 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Mid Wales Posts: 604 03 vtr

    #28 9th May 2012, 00:44

    so these hawks only fit cars that have remote central locking already right?
29. user_49404 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Mid Wales Posts: 604 03 vtr

    #29 10th May 2012, 22:34

    any takers?