the usual my car wont start...

  1. Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.
    #1
    Right guys had a quick brows through the most recent few threads of similar title and not the same problem...

    In shirot the car wont start and barley turnes over...

    it's a 1.1 Mk2

    i've tried using jump cables from my dad's car to start and also a freshly charged batery and struggles to turn it over possibly 1 turn but stupidly slow... and trying to bump it is the same issue just locks wheels

    what ive done:

    replaced starter motor and same issiue cleaned up
    earth on top of gearbox

    im coming to the conclusion on somenthing internal thats seizing but.... i drove it up from stafford (110 miles) (after 6 months not starting) for it to sit for 3 months befor this issue was found.... any help would be great on where to look would be great

    regards

    chris
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #2
    sorry dude no clue as you say may be seizing or something but I would drop the coolant get some fresh in there with it being alloy block would surprise me something freezing up
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #3
    Whats the voltage like going to the starter?
  4. Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.
    #4
    12-14 volts when on jumpers then 10v when trying to start not tested voltages when just powered off battery..as it barly turns over.
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #5
    Check the cable going to the starter for breaks.
  6. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 alton hampshire Posts: 348 97 mk1 vtr 85 LR 90
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    Check the cable going to the starter for breaks.
    if it was the starter/wireing then it would bump start there is something more to this take all of the spark plugs out and try turning it over then and get back to us with wot hapens
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L
    #7
    if you are leaving it for that length of time, the oil is most likely fucked. the coolant also... I would give it a good service mate. spark plugs. oil, oil filter, and coolant. maybe HT leads and fuel filter too
  8. Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.
    #8
    Ok guys... Banks for your input.... Will do full clear out oils and coolants, sparkles etc and get back to ya...
  9. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 alton hampshire Posts: 348 97 mk1 vtr 85 LR 90
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AnthonyMartin View Post
    if you are leaving it for that length of time, the oil is most likely fucked. the coolant also... I would give it a good service mate. spark plugs. oil, oil filter, and coolant. maybe HT leads , distributor and fuel filter too
    great advise mate first you obv dont no anything about saxos as none of them have distributors and why would the ht leads need replacing my 97 saxos leads are still good wot would be the point changing the oil and so on if the engine is fucked
  10. L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 Bicester Posts: 58 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase Deux
    #10
    plugs out turn it over by hand, if it feel really stiff then its likely the engine is seizing, if its not then id suggest making sure the battery amperage is high enough.
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #11
    sounds like its fucked tbh...you know if its not bumping youve got issues
  12. Newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Dukinfield, Greater Manchester Posts: 28 Icelandic grey saxo VTR
    #12
    Similer thing happened to a mates of mine on his 1.1, wouldnt bump ect. Tried turning engine over by hand, nothing. So I took the timing belt off the top pulley and turned by hand and bottom still wouldn't. So i stripped the sump off but found nothing out of the ordinary. Removed the head from car for further inspection into block and still nothing, so whilst head was off after alot of head scratching i removed the starter motor and found the end had come off and was jammed in the fly wheel.
  13. Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.
    #13
    i've replaced the starter and still same out come. will have the plugs out and try turning it over y hand also going to to a full diagnostic on the ecu as i now the lambda has gone along with an ABS sensor. will report tomorow.

    regards

    chris