Important! : Brake upgrade

1. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

   #1 7th January 2012, 16:12

   hey!
   
   hi, I am after ugrading my brakes for my 1.1 i would imagine the VTR are the best way to go? just wondering if they bolt straight on? and is a disc change required?
   
   cheers and thanks!
   
   jay
2. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

   #2 7th January 2012, 16:13

   apologys for the ''important'' prefix.... :s
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 7th January 2012, 16:14

   Have you got 3stud hubs?
4. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

   #4 7th January 2012, 16:19

   yea its the 3 stud mate
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 7th January 2012, 16:21

   You need struts and all of that business mate. Are you keeping the car and putting larger engine in or just leaving it as it is? I dont think you can even get any decent pads for 3stud solid disc brakes, just standard OE spec.
6. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

   #6 7th January 2012, 16:27

   thats not good news
   
   yes it will be having a bigger lump in the next couple of months, mainly the reason i wanted the 'shitty' brakes upgrading
   
   didnt want to change the alloys as they're nice wolfrace multispokes
7. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #7 7th January 2012, 16:29

   If you are putting a larger engine in you may as well fit new struts, wishbones and then brakes aswell
   
   Can probably get struts for £80 a pair maybe including VT brakes and same for wishbones.
   
   but obviously you cant keep your 3stud alloys.
8. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

   #8 7th January 2012, 16:33

   very unfortunate. I do like those alloys.
   
   and I imagine keeping these brakes they will get very hot?
   
   possibly just cut a hole in my footwell to 'flintstones brake' for how good these ones are!
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 7th January 2012, 16:35

   Theyre solid discs and at the rate a VTS can accelerate you will be braking more often so they will get very hot lol
10. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

    #10 7th January 2012, 16:38

    ok then mate thanks! there will be a brake/hub/stut etc.. upgrade in the coming months too!
    
    more than likely vtr lump going in.
    
    also just wondering does the vtr box have better ratio's?
    
    as my current 1st is 27mph!
11. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #11 7th January 2012, 16:40

    Better ratio's for what? Economical driving or acceleration?
    
    Where abouts in Nottingham are you? Will you be doing the work yourself?
12. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

    #12 7th January 2012, 16:46

    sorry should of explained better... just longer gears is what I'm asking.
    
    even though the car isn't super quick it hits the limiter in 1st pretty quickly. (27mph)
    
    its probably getting the vtr box anyway just wondering
    
    I'm in wollaton, and the work will be half and half my friend has done it all before from 1.1 to 1.6 but kept 1.1 box in.
13. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #13 7th January 2012, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jay_87 sorry should of explained better... just longer gears is what I'm asking. even though the car isn't super quick it hits the limiter in 1st pretty quickly. (27mph) its probably getting the vtr box anyway just wondering I'm in wollaton, and the work will be half and half my friend has done it all before from 1.1 to 1.6 but kept 1.1 box in.

    VTR will give you longer gears and reduce its acceleration. But you will need a VT drive shaft on one side cant remember which as the minor model drive shafts don't fit as snug into the diff. You then might need an intermediate bearing carrier for the VT drive shaft.
14. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

    #14 7th January 2012, 16:57

    so if i get the vtr box with it shafts. all should be well. so looking at a full vtr front end upgrade pretty much
15. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #15 7th January 2012, 16:58

    You'd be better off getting braided hoses decent pads and uprated disks..
16. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #16 7th January 2012, 16:59

    You got it! You can put 1.1 shafts into the VT boxes but one side isn't a perfect fit and drips oil. For the sake of one VT shaft may as well shove one in.
17. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #17 7th January 2012, 17:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam You'd be better off getting braided hoses decent pads and uprated disks..

    What decent pads and what uprated discs can you get for 3 studs? lol

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18. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #18 7th January 2012, 17:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mochachino What decent pads and what uprated discs can you get for 3 studs? lol

    Good point... ignore me!
19. jay_87 Newbie Joined: Oct 2011 nottingham Posts: 9

    #19 7th January 2012, 17:04

    ok then mate. thanks alot. i'll be posting the progress when the ball starts rolling.
    
    being lowered 1st in feb by willsy
    
    
    
    thanks again!

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