Exhaust Sheered... what do I need to replace here?

1. kae Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Potters Bar Posts: 334

   #1 11th January 2012, 18:10

   Hiya,
   
   So was bombing down the M1 and this happened:
   
   
   
   Its sheered off on the engine side of the centre section and i've never placed one of these before. I'm guessing as its sheered off that side and not the centre section side that its not JUST a case of replacing it with a new exhaust.
   
   What do i need a new one of here? Manifold?
   
   Soz if this is obvious and easy but complete newb.
   
   Cheers!
2. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #2 11th January 2012, 18:13

   replace downpipe,job done. has it got the cat in the downpipe? if it has you may consider taking it off and getting it welded to save ££
3. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #3 11th January 2012, 18:15

   downpipe, what gasket does that connect to?
4. eggy01 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 kings lynn Posts: 403 Citroen Saxo Vtr

   #4 11th January 2012, 18:15

   that will most be the downpipe which come off the cat so it will be a new cat which will be about £100 if not more unless you can get a second hand one but will be about the same, mine did this on my straight thru gasflowed manifold i just welded it up and its been perfect ever since, you best bet is tp just weld it will be ALOT cheaper
   
   hope that helps, matt
5. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #5 11th January 2012, 18:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by eggy01 that will most be the downpipe which come off the cat so it will be a new cat which will be about £100 if not more unless you can get a second hand one but will be about the same, mine did this on my straight thru gasflowed manifold i just welded it up and its been perfect ever since, you best bet is tp just weld it will be ALOT cheaper hope that helps, matt

   exact same happened to me on new years day, was in the middle of the country and it just fell off lol. was loud as fuck and the car had no power at all, i took it to quick fit and a new cat which connected to downpipe was £150.40 that was with discount
6. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #6 11th January 2012, 18:40

   cost me £120 to fix. happened to me just as i was leaving uni. in the same spot too! its the downpipe mate. the part is around £40 too (was for my car) hope this helps
7. kae Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Potters Bar Posts: 334

   #7 11th January 2012, 18:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 replace downpipe,job done. has it got the cat in the downpipe? if it has you may consider taking it off and getting it welded to save ££

   sorry mate, not quite following. How would taking the cat off save money?
8. kae Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Potters Bar Posts: 334

   #8 11th January 2012, 18:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DundeeUnited exact same happened to me on new years day, was in the middle of the country and it just fell off lol. was loud as fuck and the car had no power at all, i took it to quick fit and a new cat which connected to downpipe was £150.40 that was with discount

   jesus. yeah happened me me on 23rd going back to london. I jumped my battery 10 mins before and had no cable tie so had to pay... wait for it 132 quid to get it toed. No breakdown cover FTL.
   
   Think im going to buy a whole new exhaust as well... may as well. To be honest I have no idea if i could even attempt to replace this myself. I have like ZERO knowledge.
   
   Weak.
9. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #9 11th January 2012, 18:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by kae Think im going to buy a whole new exhaust as well... may as well. To be honest I have no idea if i could even attempt to replace this myself. I have like ZERO knowledge. Weak.

   Haynes manual? that can help so much!
10. K17NEY Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner

    #10 11th January 2012, 19:04

    That's the downpipe, Id guess you have a fucked engine mount for this to happen.
11. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #11 11th January 2012, 19:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyMartin cost me £120 to fix. happened to me just as i was leaving uni. in the same spot too! its the downpipe mate. the part is around £40 too (was for my car) hope this helps

    you paid £80 for some one to fit a downpipe?? the amount of 8v manifolds ive thrown away over the years.. lol id go to the scrap yard and just get a whole new mainiford, takes about 20min to replace
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kae sorry mate, not quite following. How would taking the cat off save money?

    becasue its going to cost a lot to fit a new downpipe with a cat in it, as said above it was £150 with discount cats are expensive... where you can get someone to weld it for a few pennies
12. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #12 11th January 2012, 19:50

    can do cats for a lot cheaper then £150 tbh, proper BS approved ones, not mickey mouse shite as well
13. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #13 11th January 2012, 19:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K17NEY That's the downpipe, Id guess you have a fucked engine mount for this to happen.

    This... But also didnt it sound like a tank a while before?
14. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #14 11th January 2012, 21:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz you paid £80 for some one to fit a downpipe?? the amount of 8v manifolds ive thrown away over the years.. lol id go to the scrap yard and just get a whole new mainiford, takes about 20min to replace

    yeah, it had to be done though. and I didnt do it because I had so much uni work to catch up on that was due in that night
15. eggy01 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 kings lynn Posts: 403 Citroen Saxo Vtr

    #15 11th January 2012, 22:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DundeeUnited exact same happened to me on new years day, was in the middle of the country and it just fell off lol. was loud as fuck and the car had no power at all, i took it to quick fit and a new cat which connected to downpipe was £150.40 that was with discount

    yer mine was just before christmas, it was a fairly new gasflowed straight thru 4-2-1 manifold £164.99 new and the bbloody thing desided it wanted out and snapped in two in the middle off town so all plans ruened for that day and off to work striped manifold off and welded it all up and back on took me about an hour but is alot better haha
16. kae Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Potters Bar Posts: 334

    #16 11th January 2012, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam This... But also didnt it sound like a tank a while before?

    It only sounded odd 1 day before, I didn't think much off it as I hadn't driven it for a while (hence battery deadness) and was only driving it for like 5 mins.
    
    The reason its broken is because I took it off to fit an exhaust that was the wrong model and in the process of discovering this have clearly cracked/damaged/etc the exhaust which over the course of about 3-4 months has finally given way.
    
    Another expensive lesson learnt. I HATE NOT KNOWING ABOUT THIS STUFF ARGHHH!!!
    
    Thanks for all your help btw guys. I'll see if i can purchase some bits from the forums and take her to a garage.
17. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #17 12th January 2012, 00:40

    think mine might be on its way out, when i turn near full lock when goin slow i hear a metal click sound then my exhaust starts blowing louder. problem after problem with these cars.
18. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #18 12th January 2012, 08:01

    If your cat is in the manifold then you need a new cat (which comes with the downpipe attached)
    If your cat is under the cat then you need a new manifold.
    
    Get a second hand one of whatever you need and then get a garage to fit if you are not confident enough to do it yourself.
    
    As kitney says above though, could be a broken or insecure engine mount causing the exhaust to be pulled about more than it's meant to be. The idea of those spring you can see in the first picture are to allow the exhaust to move when you put your foot down so it should have enough give without snapping.
19. kae Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Potters Bar Posts: 334

    #19 12th January 2012, 08:26

    OK for anyone who is looking at this thread who has the same problem here's a list of exhaust systems for all saxo models so you can work out exactly what you need:
    
    http://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/Ci...%20System.aspx
    
    In my case, for a VTR MK2 01 plate, i need this part:
    
    
    
    
20. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #20 12th January 2012, 13:04

    You need a new cat then mate
    
    or an aftermarket manifold which replaces that part