coverting 8v to 16v

  1. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #1
    Okay maybe buying a vtr (x reg, 72,000 miles) for £300, but I also bought a vts as a project, so was thinking of making one good car out of the two, hence the 16v conversion. Will the engine be a direct fit and will the loom be the same ?
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #2
    Not enough informatsion what year is the 16v from..
  3. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #3
    Sorry should have stated . Its a v reg (2000) vts .
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #4
    Hmmm are both ecu's single pin? But also could be a crossover loom.
  5. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #5
    Hold on will go check matey
  6. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #6
    The vts is single plug, vtr is three seperate plugs
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by robster247 View Post
    The vts is single plug, vtr is three seperate plugs
    Then you will have to splice the loom together mate.
  8. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #8
    Is that a hard job ? Or is it just a case off cutting the lot off and wiring to the matching wire ?
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Netley Posts: 105 AcSchnizter 328
    #9
    Lol good luck splicing. Just buy a loom That fits won't cost you anymore than £60 maximum
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #10
    Spliceing is not hard if you can soilder and have a lot of patience and also can read a wiring diagram your fine.
  11. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
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    Okay , will see if I get the car first and then will get something sorted. Thanks for that
  12. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hewsly View Post
    Lol good luck splicing. Just buy a loom That fits won't cost you anymore than £60 maximum
    Could I use the vts loom ?
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064
    #13
    Yes, you could!
  14. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #14
    Okay is there a guide ? Or anybody who has done it ?
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #15
    It's simple really,

    I had a 2002 3plug VTR .. I bought a 16v engine from a single plug car.

    Then bought a 2002 3plug VTS loom + ECU

    However, you need to change the injector loom (£5 off ebay) for a 3 plug one. Also need to change the coilpack for a 3-plug one. Also need to change the alternator. (however I'm using a singleplug alt with no problems, just snipped the plug type connector and put a O ring on.)

    There is a sensor or 2 that need's swapping too, TEMP sensor and TPS IIRC.
  16. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #16
    Well I have a fully working vts so could get all the loom out of that ?
  17. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS
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    if the interior plug is the same under the drivers wing where the loom connects you will be fine to use 16v loom
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by robster247 View Post
    Okay maybe buying a vtr (x reg, 72,000 miles) for £300, but I also bought a vts as a project, so was thinking of making one good car out of the two, hence the 16v conversion. Will the engine be a direct fit and will the loom be the same ?
    Wouldn`t you be better buying a vts with a knackered engine but good bodywork,then transplant your engine into that?Making sure its a single plug of course mate.
  19. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
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    Yeah it would I understand what your saying but its a tidy vtr and I know the lad who had it and he looked after it unlike most. And by time I find a decent one and travel I thought to myself why not take on a challenge. Plus the car is only 2 mile away and they are delivering so to me its a win win as its mot has ran out :-D
  20. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
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    Okay lads been cracking on with getting all the loom out of my vts . What part of the loom do I need to convert it to my vtr ? And what other bits etc ?
  21. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2009 Rack City, Isle of Man Posts: 4127 GS300, MK1 VTS, Katy M 1190
    #21
    Ecu, Engine, engine loom & Interior/dash loom. For it to run and work.

    Fuel return line also, unless you block it off.
  22. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
    #22
    Is it a major job getting the interior loom out ?
  23. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2009 Rack City, Isle of Man Posts: 4127 GS300, MK1 VTS, Katy M 1190
    #23
    Not really. Passenger seat out, rear seats out, lift the carpet up on that side. Dash out to get the Dash loom out too. Can be done in a a couple of hours.
  24. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio
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    Okay , so is it the whole lot off wiring? Behind the dash that is. And the engine loom does that include all the fuse box etc?