Can anyone help 03 vts wipers

1. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

   #1 16th January 2012, 07:58

   Got a 03 plate vts wipers decided not to work this morning ,
   Just tried changing the fuse with the diagram on here but still no luck , but the map light isn't working aswell .
   The rear screen heater is working tho does any one have any ideas what it is,
   Not to sure if I'm changing the right fuse ? Or if the wiper motor is fucked,
   Drove 50 miles this morning wipin the screen with my hand it wasn't good haha
2. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

   #2 16th January 2012, 09:52

   Any advise would be great thanks
3. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

   #3 16th January 2012, 12:48

   Anyone
4. user_41869 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 stoke on trent Posts: 741 saxo vtr

   #4 16th January 2012, 15:47

   Hi it could be a few thing's.
   Fuse= check/change fuse
   Wiper stalk= check/ rear wiper and motor do they work ok? If not may be stalk needs replacing.
   Wiper relay = check/ change blue relay(under glovebox)
   Wiper motor = check/change
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 16th January 2012, 15:54

   Do the washer jets squirt?
6. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

   #6 16th January 2012, 17:34

   hi cheers for the replys.
   
   washer jets dont work front or rear.
   front wipers dont move or make any noise at all
   map light dosnt work at all
   but the rear window heater works.
   
   how do i check these??dont want to buy it all to find it could be easy fix.
   
   Wiper stalk (makes all the motions and noices that it should do)
   Wiper relay
   Wiper motor
   
   P.S sorry about the noob questions im a ford man well was lol
7. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #7 16th January 2012, 17:56

   the relay is under the dash by the fuses
8. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

   #8 16th January 2012, 18:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxovtsmad the relay is under the dash by the fuses

   how do i know if its dead??
   
9. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #9 16th January 2012, 18:30

   just try another one from a mates car
10. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #10 16th January 2012, 19:02

    ok cheers any other ideas what it could be anyone??
    thanks
11. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #11 16th January 2012, 23:27

    Probably the stalk if nothing else works. Get a multimeter on the motor
12. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #12 17th January 2012, 06:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu Probably the stalk if nothing else works. Get a multimeter on the motor

    lol sorry but whats a multimeter??
13. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #13 17th January 2012, 08:40

    a device for checking voltage, continuity etc etc. should you really be messing with electrics?
14. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #14 17th January 2012, 17:31

    haha i just touch it untill i get a shock haha
    Dont think i could be the stalk because the map light isnt working but the rear window heater is working ..
    i was under the impression that they are all on the same loop ??
15. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #15 17th January 2012, 22:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adamvts03 haha i just touch it untill i get a shock haha Dont think i could be the stalk because the map light isnt working but the rear window heater is working .. i was under the impression that they are all on the same loop ??

    Might be on same fuse, but they will all work independantly of each other. Map light bulb could be gone and rear demister would work, for example
16. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #16 18th January 2012, 12:16

    Where on the motor would I put the multimeter to find if there's any voltage ??
17. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #17 18th January 2012, 13:24

    Just put the multimeter on the red and white wire at the motor and the motor side of the connector and no volts at all so guessing the motors fucked?
18. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #18 18th January 2012, 13:34

    With a hammer gently tap the motor casing as the brushes stick(temporary fix)
19. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #19 18th January 2012, 17:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 With a hammer gently tap the motor casing as the brushes stick(temporary fix)

    
    will this work because i have no voltage going into the motor ???
20. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #20 18th January 2012, 19:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adamvts03 Just put the multimeter on the red and white wire at the motor and the motor side of the connector and no volts at all so guessing the motors fucked?

    Did you turn wipers on first??
    
    And take yhe stalk out to test it
21. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #21 18th January 2012, 19:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adamvts03 will this work because i have no voltage going into the motor ???

    Try putting your other(earth probe)for the multimeter on a better earth point.You may not be getting a good enough earth to get a reading.don`t forget the power to the wiper motor is on a switched live feed so turn your ignition key to the 1st/2nd stage.
22. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #22 18th January 2012, 21:14

    yeah turned the ignition on and the wipers.
    put live probe to live wire on the motor and the motor side of the connector
    and tried three different earth points so got a bit feeling that the motor is well and truely fucked haha
    
    thanks for your help tho
23. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #23 20th January 2012, 14:59

    hi guys still got this problem ,
    i have changed the wiper motor
    changed the blue relay
    and changed the stalk to .
    
    any other help from anyone would be great as im stuck for ideas now thanks
24. Adamvts03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 237 Silver VTS 16V 106 quicksilver Mondeo ST

    #24 20th January 2012, 18:33

    Bump...