overheating

1. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

   #1 17th January 2012, 18:23

   my saxo has been overheating, so ive bled all air from engine an all was ok, untill today.
   driving back from work and temp guage shoots up into red causing warning light to come on, put heaters on to help cool down but now cold air is coming through not warm air???? any help would be much apreciated car is doin my nutt inn
   :w all:
2. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #2 17th January 2012, 18:23

   Your headgasket has blown.
3. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

   #3 17th January 2012, 18:28

   thought u get smoke when that happens?
4. Stefan_Wood Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti

   #4 17th January 2012, 18:30

   Cam and his headgasket's lol
   Thermostat maybe
5. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #5 17th January 2012, 18:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Stefan_Wood Cam and his headgasket's lol Thermostat maybe

   only going from plently of exp with saxo's, but could be thermostat stuck shut, but if it went right up to red then you 95% blown it tbh...
6. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

   #6 17th January 2012, 18:45

   just went into red and the light came on over exgarated a bit lol soz but ive just checked oil and there no mixing of water in it
7. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #7 17th January 2012, 18:59

   What about the water? Does it blow bubbles if Yu take the rad cap off whilst running? Any brown sludge on the rad cap?
   
   Look for a mayo like substance on the oil cap to.
   
   Over heating usually means hg but can be a fucked radiator, thermostat, or an air lock.
   
   Has it been slowly creeping up temp over the past few days or all of a sudden?
8. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

   #8 17th January 2012, 19:07

   yeh theres brown water coming out when ive been venting the air, its been like it for a bit, i had a new rad put on in august cus it was overheating, and the rad bottle was cracked,
   dow no if this has anything to do with it but it revs up on its own??
9. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #9 17th January 2012, 20:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gazzaboo yeh theres brown water coming out when ive been venting the air, its been like it for a bit, i had a new rad put on in august cus it was overheating, and the rad bottle was cracked, dow no if this has anything to do with it but it revs up on its own??

   if theres brown water coming out then its defo the head gasket, how can you tell its not oil, and if you had replaced the radiator in august, it aint dirt. not just that but its overheating, i wouldn't drive it if i were you? buy a new engine
10. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #10 17th January 2012, 23:13

    If you want to maybe last a little longer take thermostat out.
11. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #11 17th January 2012, 23:27

    If it has overheated, more than likely fucked the head gasket if you did not turn it off straight away. The story reads that you did not turn it off straight away you turned the fans on to try and cool it down?
    
    Sorry bro headgasket would of split
12. darrenh84 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Bilston Posts: 366 Saxo vts 2002 Bravo 1.8 hlx 2001

    #12 17th January 2012, 23:34

    strip down to head.....when i had a punto it was getting overheated and i carried trying drive through...story......engine fuckin blew !! when took apart my whole piston was destroyed and the rings obliterated
13. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #13 17th January 2012, 23:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DundeeUnited if theres brown water coming out then its defo the head gasket, how can you tell its not oil, and if you had replaced the radiator in august, it aint dirt. not just that but its overheating, i wouldn't drive it if i were you? buy a new engine

    Is it? Could just be manky coolant or the wrong types or coolant been mixed. Also why would you need a new engine if its just the a blown head gasket?
14. NiffyVtr Newbie Joined: Aug 2011 limavady Posts: 26 black vts W67 AOS

    #14 18th January 2012, 00:26

    if there was oil in the water ye would see and if it had just blown would it not take a wee bit long than a couple of hours to it build up the mayo lol?..... if ye take out the thermo like said it will last a bit longer but DONT recomd it..... was on autodata earlier and it said 5 hours for head off and on again.... depend on if the heads warpped with u drivin it on
15. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #15 18th January 2012, 01:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazzaboo yeh theres brown water coming out when ive been venting the air, its been like it for a bit, i had a new rad put on in august cus it was overheating, and the rad bottle was cracked, dow no if this has anything to do with it but it revs up on its own??

    Your from Dudley, what Saxo Yu drive colour etc? I live close to russles hall hospital.... Can bring it by and I can have a look if you want.
    
    Edit - if the waters brown it doesn't mean hg has gone. Brown in water can mean rust build up, especially if you used any kind of flushing agent. You need to look for oil in the water its easy to spot.
16. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #16 18th January 2012, 02:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo1600 Your from Dudley, what Saxo Yu drive colour etc? I live close to russles hall hospital.... Can bring it by and I can have a look if you want. Edit - if the waters brown it doesn't mean hg has gone. Brown in water can mean rust build up, especially if you used any kind of flushing agent. You need to look for oil in the water its easy to spot.

    i was thinking that, it could be rust or something along those lines
17. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #17 18th January 2012, 02:20

    Yup. I had it when I freshly fitted my newly skimmed head. You can see oil in water as its like oil on the floor with all different colors.
18. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

    #18 18th January 2012, 16:05

    just had the car bk from my mechanic an you were right the head gaskets on the way out, so think its time to say bye bye saxo
    if anybody wants it for parts msg me
19. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #19 18th January 2012, 16:20

    why break it just for damaged a head gasket?
20. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

    #20 18th January 2012, 17:12

    really carnt be botherd with it now just want it gone
21. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #21 18th January 2012, 18:18

    Dude what colour is is ?
22. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #22 18th January 2012, 18:18

    I could fix it for 100 quid
23. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

    #23 18th January 2012, 18:31

    silver
24. Gazzaboo Newbie Joined: May 2011 dudley Posts: 18 saxo vtr

    #24 18th January 2012, 18:40

    same colour and year as yours steveo
25. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #25 18th January 2012, 19:03

    just keep the car mate. doing a head gasket seems tough. but its nice to work on your car like that. as Clarkson would say "how hard can it be"
26. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

    #26 18th January 2012, 21:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Is it? Could just be manky coolant or the wrong types or coolant been mixed. Also why would you need a new engine if its just the a blown head gasket?

    well a new engine you could get for about 90 quid, new head gasket is almost double that
27. Stefan_Wood Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti

    #27 18th January 2012, 21:41

    Just changed my thermostat as i was overheating flushed all the system out new coolant and water now runs sweet as with heater working perfectly fan comes on and cools the engine down