Is it as bad as i'm thinking.....

  1. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150
    #1
    Car has been ok until the last few days, havent really noticed it loosing coolant, however it has gone a manky brown sludgy colour (probs oil in the coolant). There is nothing under the oil cap, oil looks as oil should after 5k miles.

    However it has now started to get alot hotter than it has previously. Was only reaching 1/4 when driving normally, around town and motorway. Until the last few days where it has been sat on half way, heats up really quick (within 5 mins of driving) get heat out of the heaters too.

    If i just sit still and try and get it to warm up....takes forever and doesn't go above half way, so the fan won't kick in.

    I have bled the radiator what seems to be about 5 times now.

    Is it the head gasket as i fear?
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #2
    I'm a bit confused, the car is reaching it's normal operating temp (Half way), it's getting there nice and quickly and you're getting heat from the heaters.

    What's the issue?
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #3
    Every saxo i've been in, when warm.. indicates just under half..

    And the fan only comes on after half way..

    However, I recently changed engine bla bla bla, And the temp sat on a quarter.. but sent my rev's up and down..

    So i unplugged it, and it now sit's at half as they all normally do.

    So faulty temp sensor? Although the brown coolant would suggest head gasket!
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 246 Saxo VTR 02 reg Mitsubishi Evo 8 VW Passat
    #4
    As above half way is where its supposed to be.

    Theres doesnt sound anything wrong with your car.
  5. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 246 Saxo VTR 02 reg Mitsubishi Evo 8 VW Passat
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxova View Post
    Every saxo i've been in, when warm.. indicates just under half..

    And the fan only comes on after half way..

    However, I recently changed engine bla bla bla, And the temp sat on a quarter.. but sent my rev's up and down..

    So i unplugged it, and it now sit's at half as they all normally do.

    So faulty temp sensor? Although the brown coolant would suggest head gasket!
    Brown coolant just suggests needs new coolant to me.

    Maybe a flush out.
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #6
    Was about to say, it could do with a coolant flush but brown coolant isn't normally a bad sign. It sounds like you've cured the problem by bleeding the system properly.
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150
    #7
    since i fitted a VTS rad its always sat on 1/4 temp though. Red light randomly comes on when it goes towards half way. Yeah the brown sludge is making me think HG, just concerned as its not as it has been for the past 3 years
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    since i fitted a VTS rad its always sat on 1/4 temp though. Red light randomly comes on when it goes towards half way. Yeah the brown sludge is making me think HG, just concerned as its not as it has been for the past 3 years
    Change the temp sensor dude.. with mine unplugged the gauge reads normal IE under half way, but the red light always on.

    With it plugged in, it read's a quarter.. So i'd say a faulty sensor.
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150
    #9
    Any ideas where its located on a furio?
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
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    The unplugged blue one.

    your should be around there too. - right hand side of engine.. near water pipes.
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #11
    Sounds like oil and water has mixed to me from a bad head gasket - give it a thorough flush and see if the oily muck in the rad comes back
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kenobi View Post
    Brown coolant just suggests needs new coolant to me.

    Maybe a flush out.
    I`d agree with that.
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150
    #13
    Its fucked....hardly any oil in the car and there is oil in the coolant, hurrah! HG gone surely!?
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Its fucked....hardly any oil in the car and there is oil in the coolant, hurrah! HD gone surely!?
    *HG

    Doesn't sound right. Have a sniff test done at a garage.
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #15
    Chances are it has, sounds like its blown between a water way and an oilway. Dont drive it now, whip the head off and inspect
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Its fucked....hardly any oil in the car and there is oil in the coolant, hurrah! HG gone surely!?
    Your right mate I,should`ve read the post properly.
  17. Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti
    #17
    Dont shoot the messenger but seen this a few hrs ago

    http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...ution/95217454
  18. Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stefan_Wood View Post
    Dont shoot the messenger but seen this a few hrs ago

    http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...ution/95217454
    if you are trying that use kseal instead, its cheaper. has been known to work if there are early signs of HG failure, but if its gone then it wont be rescued
  19. Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BertieG View Post
    if you are trying that use kseal instead, its cheaper. has been known to work if there are early signs of HG failure, but if its gone then it wont be rescued
    KSEAL clogs radiator's tho.
    This is what ive heard ^^
  20. Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stefan_Wood View Post
    KSEAL clogs radiator's tho.
    This is what ive heard ^^
    that stuff wont be any different
  21. Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BertieG View Post
    that stuff wont be any different
    Just what ive heard lol or should i say read
  22. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stefan_Wood View Post
    Dont shoot the messenger but seen this a few hrs ago

    http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...ution/95217454
    Erh no mate I can`t see that being of much use.
  23. Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Liskeard Posts: 4 1st - saxo furio 2001 :) current - fiat stilo s
    #23
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
  24. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteytayla View Post
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
    Or take it into college and fix it yourself and just pay for parts....cheap as chips!
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteytayla View Post
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
    Yeah & some unsuspecting person buys it,things like this give everybody a bad rep.
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  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteytayla View Post
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
    And then the buyer will notice it doesnt warm up properly when they test drive it? Besides thats not going to stop the oil and coolant mixing
  27. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteytayla View Post
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
    Faggot.
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteytayla View Post
    take the thermo stat out, flush the whole system, top it up with oil... and sell removing the thermostat will slow it warming up to running temp and will minimise oil leaking into water...
    Note to self:

    Never buy anything from this man, infact never buy anything from somebody that spells their own surname incorrectly.
  29. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Bristol/Bournemouth Posts: 107
    #29
    ^^ I bought a car that someone had done that with once. If you want to be a dick, good idea.

    Just for future reference though, other tell-tale HG failure signs are white stuff in the oil cap, and white smoke coming out of the exhaust.