Headgasket :(

1. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #1 5th February 2012, 17:40

   Lucky for me my head gasket has just started going.. ive got the following too do the job so far
   
   One grandad who has been in the mechanics trade for years
   Full gasket kit and head bolts
   New oil and filter
   New antifreeze
   Timing lock pins
   New cambelt and water pump
   And my trusty haynes manual..
   
   Is there anything im going to need that i havent already got? and is there anything i should know about when changing the headgasket on my 1.4 furio, cheers guys any hints and stuff would be appreciated.
2. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #2 5th February 2012, 17:42

   should be it IIRC aslong as you got all the tools for the job
3. Bobo0907 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye

   #3 5th February 2012, 17:46

   Them parts will do the job, but remember you may need to get the head skimmed if it has warped.
4. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #4 5th February 2012, 17:48

   Thanks for the quick replies , pretty sure it wont be warped as its never overheated, and there isnt a tool my grandad doesnt have in his garage, apart from if there is any citroen specific tools i will need that anyone knows about?
5. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #5 5th February 2012, 18:04

   personally whilst you are there i would change the spark plugs.
6. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #6 5th February 2012, 18:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by lhessey Thanks for the quick replies , pretty sure it wont be warped as its never overheated, and there isnt a tool my grandad doesnt have in his garage, apart from if there is any citroen specific tools i will need that anyone knows about?

   nah there won't be any Citroen specific, only tools that you'll need that a typical non mechanic might not have is a Torque wrench and a tool for measure the angle you've turned the head bolts for the second stage of tightening them
7. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #7 5th February 2012, 18:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Baz nah there won't be any Citroen specific, only tools that you'll need that a typical non mechanic might not have is a Torque wrench and a tool for measure the angle you've turned the head bolts for the second stage of tightening them

   Ive got a torque wrench , with tightening the head bolts you move out in a spiral sort of shape yes? also they get tightened to a specific torque then you go second time around to tighten them to the full torque? correct me if im wrong
8. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #8 5th February 2012, 18:20

   Headbolts will first be done to a certain Torque, generally about 25Nm then the next part will be done to a certain angle such as 220 degrees. But yes do them in a spiral motion starting from the middle
9. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #9 5th February 2012, 18:23

   pic stolen from a different thread but here you are, pic taken from Autodata
   
   

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10. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #10 5th February 2012, 18:26

    personally change waterpump and thermosat aswell
11. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #11 5th February 2012, 18:27

    Thankyou , last question, reckon this gasket set will do the job? ive heard loads about cheap ones just going straight away but the head gasket in this one looks fairly decent (this is the one ive bought) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAD-GASKE...item1c22932ff2
12. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #12 5th February 2012, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by moxy89 personally change waterpump and thermosat aswell

    Doing the waterpump with the cambelt, and thermostat has recently been changed
13. f13sta Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 loughborough Posts: 2229 1988 ford fiesta mk2 1.4- 2001 black saxo furio (d

    #13 5th February 2012, 19:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz pic stolen from a different thread but here you are, pic taken from Autodata

    
    iirc autodata is wrong for the alloy blocks as iirc it's 240 degrees on the second stage
    
    haynes will tell you
    it's the cast block that has 3 stages
14. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #14 5th February 2012, 19:59

    air filter too your might as well do a full service while you are there
15. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #15 6th February 2012, 20:42

    Okay so it turns out im going to have to somehow get the car 300 miles up north from here.. the headgasket is liturally just starting to go its losing next to no water but the gunk on the oil filler cap seems to gain more everyday and there is more smoke from the exhaust everyday as well, do you reckon i'll be able to drive it up there without causing any damage too the engine? the car drives fine Cheers guys
16. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #16 6th February 2012, 20:59

    Really could do with help on this as i am clueless
17. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #17 6th February 2012, 21:50

    personally i would get it towed... but you cant do much more damage providing if it does overheat you turn the engine off and wait for it too cool for a sufficient time. personally not worth the risk, but if it is your only option, then do it. but be careful and there is a change of engine failure if it does go wrong!
18. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #18 7th February 2012, 17:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyMartin personally i would get it towed... but you cant do much more damage providing if it does overheat you turn the engine off and wait for it too cool for a sufficient time. personally not worth the risk, but if it is your only option, then do it. but be careful and there is a change of engine failure if it does go wrong!

    Its never overheated before, if there is any sign of it getting hot i'll pull over i guess, cheers..
    
    I know i said last question but just got my gasket set and stuff in post..
    the engine bolts say engine code TU9 on it and the gasket set says TU1M
    
    im pretty sure the TU9 is the 1.0? will they fit my 1.4? it said they would on the information for it.
    
    and what engine is the TU1M? haha cheers
19. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #19 7th February 2012, 17:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey Its never overheated before, if there is any sign of it getting hot i'll pull over i guess, cheers.. I know i said last question but just got my gasket set and stuff in post.. the engine bolts say engine code TU9 on it and the gasket set says TU1M im pretty sure the TU9 is the 1.0? will they fit my 1.4? it said they would on the information for it. and what engine is the TU1M? haha cheers

    according to google, TU9 is ok for 1.4's, and TU1M is 1.1 also good for 1.4
20. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #20 7th February 2012, 17:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danny-vts according to google, TU9 is ok for 1.4's, and TU1M is 1.1 also good for 1.4

    Thankyou for the reassurance rather not take everything apart to find nothing fits or put stuff on too drive 1000miles and have stuff start going again